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The drug companies that produced the vaccines were real hero’s of the pandemic. I’m sure they benefitted from various forms of government support … perhaps we

by onos 3y ago

The drug companies that produced the vaccines were real hero’s of the pandemic. I’m sure they benefitted from various forms of government support … perhaps we should focus government resources where it’s been impactful, such as to research grants like those that led to these results.

malfist 3y ago
What do you think this was supposed to be?
bugglebeetle 3y ago
> I’m sure they benefitted from various forms of government support …like paying for all the vaccines ahead of time, without any guarantee they worked, and the decades of government-sponsored research that made them possible in the first place? The drug companies were not in anyway “heroes,” but net beneficiaries of the enclosure of public research, which, combined with decades of bribing politicians to prevent state manufacturing capacity and enforce bogus IP restrictions, has resulted in wildly inequitable global vaccine access and countless, unnecessary deaths across the world.
- megaman821 3y ago
  This is like saying LeBron James' mom is the real basketball star. She carried him in her womb and fed an clothed him throughout his childhood.
  - bugglebeetle 3y ago
    This is a hilarious analogy because #1, I’m sure LeBron would say this publicly while drug companies pay millions of dollars to PR firms to lie about how much they profit from public research, #2 LeBron’s mom didn’t invent the techniques that made him a star player, while the publicly-funded research did this for MRNA vaccines: https://www.cbc.ca/radio/quirks/jun-12-missions-to-venus-learning-instant-replay-wrens-spectacular-duet-and-more-1.6061094/meet-the-canadian-scientist-who-paved-the-way-for-groundbreaking-mrna-covid-vaccines-1.6061099 https://www.cbc.ca/radio/quirks/jun-12-missions-to-venus-lea...
908B64B197 3y ago
> I’m sure they benefitted from various forms of government support The whole world can thank the Trump administration and Operation Warp Speed [0]. It provided billions of dollars and firm orders for any manufacturer who could get it's vaccine candidate on the market. All paid for by the American tax payer, of course. To fight a disease that most likely originated in a Chinese lab. Without it it would have been months of additional delay for R&D and production (see the vaccines not selected for Warp Speed or the CanSino program in Canada[1]) [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Warp_Speed https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Warp_Speed [1] https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/cansino-deal-canada-nrc-fifth-estate-1.6208241 https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/cansino-deal-canada-nrc-fifth...

by onos 3y ago

malfist 3y ago

What do you think this was supposed to be?

bugglebeetle 3y ago

> I’m sure they benefitted from various forms of government support …like paying for all the vaccines ahead of time, without any guarantee they worked, and the decades of government-sponsored research that made them possible in the first place? The drug companies were not in anyway “heroes,” but net beneficiaries of the enclosure of public research, which, combined with decades of bribing politicians to prevent state manufacturing capacity and enforce bogus IP restrictions, has resulted in wildly inequitable global vaccine access and countless, unnecessary deaths across the world.

megaman821 3y ago
This is like saying LeBron James' mom is the real basketball star. She carried him in her womb and fed an clothed him throughout his childhood.
- bugglebeetle 3y ago
  This is a hilarious analogy because #1, I’m sure LeBron would say this publicly while drug companies pay millions of dollars to PR firms to lie about how much they profit from public research, #2 LeBron’s mom didn’t invent the techniques that made him a star player, while the publicly-funded research did this for MRNA vaccines: https://www.cbc.ca/radio/quirks/jun-12-missions-to-venus-learning-instant-replay-wrens-spectacular-duet-and-more-1.6061094/meet-the-canadian-scientist-who-paved-the-way-for-groundbreaking-mrna-covid-vaccines-1.6061099 https://www.cbc.ca/radio/quirks/jun-12-missions-to-venus-lea...

908B64B197 3y ago

> I’m sure they benefitted from various forms of government support The whole world can thank the Trump administration and Operation Warp Speed [0]. It provided billions of dollars and firm orders for any manufacturer who could get it's vaccine candidate on the market. All paid for by the American tax payer, of course. To fight a disease that most likely originated in a Chinese lab. Without it it would have been months of additional delay for R&D and production (see the vaccines not selected for Warp Speed or the CanSino program in Canada[1]) [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Warp_Speed https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Warp_Speed [1] https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/cansino-deal-canada-nrc-fifth-estate-1.6208241 https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/cansino-deal-canada-nrc-fifth...