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Of course, this attitude is one of the biggest reasons inefficiency goes unchecked. If the opposition option is simply to bang a drum of "do nothing at all and

Of course, this attitude is one of the biggest reasons inefficiency goes unchecked. If the opposition option is simply to bang a drum of "do nothing at all and wash your hands of problems" then all the inefficient agency has to do to maintain the status quo is "look like a less bad option than doing nothing at all."

onos 4y ago
The drug companies that produced the vaccines were real hero’s of the pandemic. I’m sure they benefitted from various forms of government support … perhaps we should focus government resources where it’s been impactful, such as to research grants like those that led to these results.
- malfist 4y ago
  What do you think this was supposed to be?
- bugglebeetle 4y ago
  > I’m sure they benefitted from various forms of government support …like paying for all the vaccines ahead of time, without any guarantee they worked, and the decades of government-sponsored research that made them possible in the first place? The drug companies were not in anyway “heroes,” but net beneficiaries of the enclosure of public research, which, combined with decades of bribing politicians to prevent state manufacturing capacity and enforce bogus IP restrictions, has resulted in wildly inequitable global vaccine access and countless, unnecessary deaths across the world.
  - megaman821 4y ago
    This is like saying LeBron James' mom is the real basketball star. She carried him in her womb and fed an clothed him throughout his childhood.
    - bugglebeetle 4y ago
      This is a hilarious analogy because #1, I’m sure LeBron would say this publicly while drug companies pay millions of dollars to PR firms to lie about how much they profit from public research, #2 LeBron’s mom didn’t invent the techniques that made him a star player, while the publicly-funded research did this for MRNA vaccines: https://www.cbc.ca/radio/quirks/jun-12-missions-to-venus-learning-instant-replay-wrens-spectacular-duet-and-more-1.6061094/meet-the-canadian-scientist-who-paved-the-way-for-groundbreaking-mrna-covid-vaccines-1.6061099 https://www.cbc.ca/radio/quirks/jun-12-missions-to-venus-lea...
- 908B64B197 4y ago
  > I’m sure they benefitted from various forms of government support The whole world can thank the Trump administration and Operation Warp Speed [0]. It provided billions of dollars and firm orders for any manufacturer who could get it's vaccine candidate on the market. All paid for by the American tax payer, of course. To fight a disease that most likely originated in a Chinese lab. Without it it would have been months of additional delay for R&D and production (see the vaccines not selected for Warp Speed or the CanSino program in Canada[1]) [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Warp_Speed https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Warp_Speed [1] https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/cansino-deal-canada-nrc-fifth-estate-1.6208241 https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/cansino-deal-canada-nrc-fifth...
NotYourLawyer 4y ago
Obviously I’m not advocating for doing nothing. I’m saying the feds are gonna fuck up anything they possibly can, so maybe somebody else should be handling this.
- soco 4y ago
  Maybe my comment is pointless because I'm not US american, but have you thought of, uh, fixing your feds? I mean, instead of either creating from scratch some ideal system or passing the hot potato to some privates which possibly have opposite interests?
  - bee_rider 4y ago
    If we start making incremental changes, there’s a chance our magic imaginary solutions might actually be implemented and get dirtied by the real world.
- Bud 4y ago
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- majormajor 4y ago
  If you aren't advocating for doing nothing, but many parts of the federal government exist because nobody actually "handled things" in the "maybe someone else should be doing something" days prior to that part of the government getting created... then how do you actually propose making sure that "maybe someone should do something" gets turned into action?

onos 4y ago

The drug companies that produced the vaccines were real hero’s of the pandemic. I’m sure they benefitted from various forms of government support … perhaps we should focus government resources where it’s been impactful, such as to research grants like those that led to these results.

malfist 4y ago
What do you think this was supposed to be?
bugglebeetle 4y ago
> I’m sure they benefitted from various forms of government support …like paying for all the vaccines ahead of time, without any guarantee they worked, and the decades of government-sponsored research that made them possible in the first place? The drug companies were not in anyway “heroes,” but net beneficiaries of the enclosure of public research, which, combined with decades of bribing politicians to prevent state manufacturing capacity and enforce bogus IP restrictions, has resulted in wildly inequitable global vaccine access and countless, unnecessary deaths across the world.
- megaman821 4y ago
  This is like saying LeBron James' mom is the real basketball star. She carried him in her womb and fed an clothed him throughout his childhood.
  - bugglebeetle 4y ago
    This is a hilarious analogy because #1, I’m sure LeBron would say this publicly while drug companies pay millions of dollars to PR firms to lie about how much they profit from public research, #2 LeBron’s mom didn’t invent the techniques that made him a star player, while the publicly-funded research did this for MRNA vaccines: https://www.cbc.ca/radio/quirks/jun-12-missions-to-venus-learning-instant-replay-wrens-spectacular-duet-and-more-1.6061094/meet-the-canadian-scientist-who-paved-the-way-for-groundbreaking-mrna-covid-vaccines-1.6061099 https://www.cbc.ca/radio/quirks/jun-12-missions-to-venus-lea...
908B64B197 4y ago
> I’m sure they benefitted from various forms of government support The whole world can thank the Trump administration and Operation Warp Speed [0]. It provided billions of dollars and firm orders for any manufacturer who could get it's vaccine candidate on the market. All paid for by the American tax payer, of course. To fight a disease that most likely originated in a Chinese lab. Without it it would have been months of additional delay for R&D and production (see the vaccines not selected for Warp Speed or the CanSino program in Canada[1]) [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Warp_Speed https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Warp_Speed [1] https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/cansino-deal-canada-nrc-fifth-estate-1.6208241 https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/cansino-deal-canada-nrc-fifth...

NotYourLawyer 4y ago

Obviously I’m not advocating for doing nothing. I’m saying the feds are gonna fuck up anything they possibly can, so maybe somebody else should be handling this.

soco 4y ago
Maybe my comment is pointless because I'm not US american, but have you thought of, uh, fixing your feds? I mean, instead of either creating from scratch some ideal system or passing the hot potato to some privates which possibly have opposite interests?
- bee_rider 4y ago
  If we start making incremental changes, there’s a chance our magic imaginary solutions might actually be implemented and get dirtied by the real world.
Bud 4y ago
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majormajor 4y ago
If you aren't advocating for doing nothing, but many parts of the federal government exist because nobody actually "handled things" in the "maybe someone else should be doing something" days prior to that part of the government getting created... then how do you actually propose making sure that "maybe someone should do something" gets turned into action?