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> …supposed to… You’re right. But “supposed to” is just an ideal. > …They serve us. Do they really? The evidence suggests otherwise. So we must ask, why do t

> …supposed to… You’re right. But “supposed to” is just an ideal. > …They serve us. Do they really? The evidence suggests otherwise. So we must ask, why do they not serve us? Leading us to… > If they're not serving you, you are voting wrong Well sure, in a democracy, if the representatives don’t work towards the population’s interests, then the population must be “voting wrong”.[1] But that is just begging the question… “Why are they voting wrong?” And sure…“They are fooled.” But, How? “They are fools.” But, Why? [1] Ignoring the problem of asymmetric information. A population simply does not a have access to all the information needed to ensure they’ll be served properly. The representatives know far more about their own intentions than any set of voters ever could.

cjblomqvist 3y ago
Proper education, a corner stone of democracy (sometimes forgotten? In particular in that context). Not the full story, but for sure a critical part of it.
- chimpanzee 3y ago
  You might be interested in: Disciplined Minds by Jeff Schmidt: https://ia800103.us.archive.org/22/items/jeff_schmidt_disciplined_minds/Jeff%20Schmidt%20-%20Disciplined%20Minds%20A%20Critical%20Look%20at%20Salaried%20Professionals%20and%20the%20Soul-battering%20System%20That%20Shapes%20Their%20Lives.pdf https://ia800103.us.archive.org/22/items/jeff_schmidt_discip... The Crisis of Democracy: https://ia800305.us.archive.org/29/items/TheCrisisOfDemocracy-TrilateralCommission-1975/crisis_of_democracy_text.pdf https://ia800305.us.archive.org/29/items/TheCrisisOfDemocrac... Both address the issue of education in the context of democracy and the current economic order. The first being a proper critique and the second being from the perspective of the elites and power-holders, particularly the Trilateral Commission, helmed by Rockefeller. And its concerns and conclusions can be interpreted as being antagonistic to the goals and interests of the populace. It’s the origin of the phrase “an excess of democracy”. An “excess” according to who? one should reasonably ask… Edit: I says to myself, why not submit these to HN and maybe get a little discussion going? And so I did… Disciplined Minds: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35643885 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35643885 Crisis of Democracy: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35643916 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35643916
  - notRobot 3y ago
    Thank you for your comments and links in this thread, very interesting.
    - chimpanzee 3y ago
      And thank you for the friendly and encouraging comment.

cjblomqvist 3y ago

Proper education, a corner stone of democracy (sometimes forgotten? In particular in that context). Not the full story, but for sure a critical part of it.

chimpanzee 3y ago
You might be interested in: Disciplined Minds by Jeff Schmidt: https://ia800103.us.archive.org/22/items/jeff_schmidt_disciplined_minds/Jeff%20Schmidt%20-%20Disciplined%20Minds%20A%20Critical%20Look%20at%20Salaried%20Professionals%20and%20the%20Soul-battering%20System%20That%20Shapes%20Their%20Lives.pdf https://ia800103.us.archive.org/22/items/jeff_schmidt_discip... The Crisis of Democracy: https://ia800305.us.archive.org/29/items/TheCrisisOfDemocracy-TrilateralCommission-1975/crisis_of_democracy_text.pdf https://ia800305.us.archive.org/29/items/TheCrisisOfDemocrac... Both address the issue of education in the context of democracy and the current economic order. The first being a proper critique and the second being from the perspective of the elites and power-holders, particularly the Trilateral Commission, helmed by Rockefeller. And its concerns and conclusions can be interpreted as being antagonistic to the goals and interests of the populace. It’s the origin of the phrase “an excess of democracy”. An “excess” according to who? one should reasonably ask… Edit: I says to myself, why not submit these to HN and maybe get a little discussion going? And so I did… Disciplined Minds: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35643885 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35643885 Crisis of Democracy: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35643916 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35643916
- notRobot 3y ago
  Thank you for your comments and links in this thread, very interesting.
  - chimpanzee 3y ago
    And thank you for the friendly and encouraging comment.