> Humans are innately horrible. You're even more pessimistic than me ;-). I think that most humans are good or at least neutral, but the horrible ones are a l

> Humans are innately horrible. You're even more pessimistic than me ;-). I think that most humans are good or at least neutral, but the horrible ones are a lot more visible. And a lot of what we call horrible is just rhetoric -- when the shit hits the fan, people pull together, even when they're ideologically opposed. At least in my experience. There are outliers, of course.