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For non hyperactive types I believe there is commonly anxiety with the ADD which is alleviated by the small dose of amphetamine. Maybe MDMA helps reduce anxiet

by bnjms 3y ago

For non hyperactive types I believe there is commonly anxiety with the ADD which is alleviated by the small dose of amphetamine. Maybe MDMA helps reduce anxiety for the medium term after a dose? I don’t know if that’s been found scientifically yet. I do know MDMA clears anxiety during the high. Knowing what the lack of anxiety feels like could be very powerful paired with therapy to train a body to return to lower anxiety levels.

eimrine 3y ago
Druggies who was on high doses of this report about "suicide tuesdays".
- bnjms 3y ago
  You’ve changed the context from medical use to recreational by druggies with irresponsibly high doses feeling like suicide afterwards. I have a sense of the point you’re attempting but it’s murky and isn’t a useful response.
  - eimrine 3y ago
    But medics who has that information does not use HN unlike the druggies. Druggies report that effect of mdma might be a long-term but this is not a prolonged effect of the substance, this is just positive outcomes from a good social interaction session which may happen with significantly more probability if on mdma. For example: had a uncomfortable but long-term useful talk, could behave openly on some party after a long time without that experience and gained new best-friend for tens of years, danced better on some dance competition which resulted in participation of higher-level competitions, etc. Prolonged anti-depression effect is a killer feature of shrooms.
kayodelycaon 3y ago
I don't see how this will help ADHD-I. This technique is already possible and done with temporary use of benzodiazepines, beta-blockers, or anti-depressants. Therapy isn't very effective because you can't focus on the techniques when you need them.
chimeracoder 3y ago
> For non hyperactive types I believe there is commonly anxiety with the ADD which is alleviated by the small dose of amphetamine. Maybe MDMA helps reduce anxiety for the medium term after a dose? ADHD is at its core an executive function disorder, and even the symptoms of anxiety caused by ADHD are rooted in difficulties in executive function, which is unrelated to anxiety with other etiologies (such as anxiety disorders, depression, or PTSD). It's implausible that MDMA would be useful for this purpose, because there's no theory that would connect MDMA to improved executive function after the acute effects have worn off. > Knowing what the lack of anxiety feels like could be very powerful paired with therapy to train a body to return to lower anxiety levels. You have a misunderstanding of how ADHD works. "Knowing what lack of anxiety feels like" won't fix the executive function disorder that prevents an individual from translating that knowledge into action.

by bnjms 3y ago

eimrine 3y ago

Druggies who was on high doses of this report about "suicide tuesdays".

bnjms 3y ago
You’ve changed the context from medical use to recreational by druggies with irresponsibly high doses feeling like suicide afterwards. I have a sense of the point you’re attempting but it’s murky and isn’t a useful response.
- eimrine 3y ago
  But medics who has that information does not use HN unlike the druggies. Druggies report that effect of mdma might be a long-term but this is not a prolonged effect of the substance, this is just positive outcomes from a good social interaction session which may happen with significantly more probability if on mdma. For example: had a uncomfortable but long-term useful talk, could behave openly on some party after a long time without that experience and gained new best-friend for tens of years, danced better on some dance competition which resulted in participation of higher-level competitions, etc. Prolonged anti-depression effect is a killer feature of shrooms.

kayodelycaon 3y ago

I don't see how this will help ADHD-I. This technique is already possible and done with temporary use of benzodiazepines, beta-blockers, or anti-depressants. Therapy isn't very effective because you can't focus on the techniques when you need them.

chimeracoder 3y ago

> For non hyperactive types I believe there is commonly anxiety with the ADD which is alleviated by the small dose of amphetamine. Maybe MDMA helps reduce anxiety for the medium term after a dose? ADHD is at its core an executive function disorder, and even the symptoms of anxiety caused by ADHD are rooted in difficulties in executive function, which is unrelated to anxiety with other etiologies (such as anxiety disorders, depression, or PTSD). It's implausible that MDMA would be useful for this purpose, because there's no theory that would connect MDMA to improved executive function after the acute effects have worn off. > Knowing what the lack of anxiety feels like could be very powerful paired with therapy to train a body to return to lower anxiety levels. You have a misunderstanding of how ADHD works. "Knowing what lack of anxiety feels like" won't fix the executive function disorder that prevents an individual from translating that knowledge into action.