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> than some magic tools that attempts to do everything for me and then fails without observable reason. Ok, but then what about autoconf/autoreconf, aclocal, a

by duped 4y ago

> than some magic tools that attempts to do everything for me and then fails without observable reason. Ok, but then what about autoconf/autoreconf, aclocal, and automake used to generate makefiles for what seems like the entire GNU ecosystem? At least the "magic" tools that are more modern have documentation. You can print debug a cmake build pretty dang easily, and it at least doesn't pull in the entire user environment implicitly.

blueflow 4y ago
Please back up the implicit claim of missing documentation.
JohnFen 4y ago
> Ok, but then what about autoconf/autoreconf, aclocal, and automake used to generate makefiles for what seems like the entire GNU ecosystem? I thought we were talking about make, though. Autoconf and the ilk is an entirely different conversation.
- duped 4y ago
  It's really not, since they're used to generate or manage so many make builds.
  - JohnFen 4y ago
    But make is most often used without those other tools. Autoconf serves a very different purpose than make.