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This is despicable, but titling "Tech CEO" for a digital marketing company is a stretch. FWIW, no one(very few?) actually in tech company would make fun of work

This is despicable, but titling "Tech CEO" for a digital marketing company is a stretch. FWIW, no one(very few?) actually in tech company would make fun of working mom's or applaud someone for selling their dog.

jen20 3y ago
What makes you think there are fewer sociopaths in tech than marketing?
- jonas21 3y ago
  Because marketers don't make a product. They're just locked in a zero-sum game for attention. Most tech companies at least start with the goal of improving the world in some way.
  - jen20 3y ago
    Most tech companies post 2000 are marketing companies in disguise, whose only goal is to enshitify products in service of recurring revenue and spy on users to harvest data. They might have a public statement of “improving the world”, but this is usually a brazen attempt to hide their actual goals.
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- ndsipa_pomu 3y ago
  Marketing is all about manipulation
- brvsft 3y ago
  I tend to view marketing as an industry where it is easier to 'fake it til you make it' versus tech or software engineering. But I definitely can see some arguments otherwise. I just view being able to sustain oneself purely on "bullshitting" other people as a bit harder to do in tech only because, typically, tech businesses have to output an actual software product. But I realize there are a handful of counterexamples, I still view those as anecdotal data. I'll admit, I don't think their is scientific proof one way or the other, I just view "marketing" as an easier industry for "bullshitters" to climb their way to the top.
  - jen20 3y ago
    This might be true (and I agree!) - but there are plenty of forms of sociopathy that are not bullshitting and “faking it until you (maybe) make it”.
lapinot 3y ago
#noteveryceo ...
colonwqbang 3y ago
Google and facebook are digital marketing companies.
- brvsft 3y ago
  Not remotely the same as digital marketing companies that do their work creating ad campaigns for clients. Google and FB are ad platforms whose primary products are software.
- mywittyname 3y ago
  They build the tools and platforms for digital marketing, but Google at least, outsources the actual digital marketing to third parties. If you reach out to their sales team for "enterprise" GMP solutions, you'll be connected with a reseller.

jen20 3y ago

What makes you think there are fewer sociopaths in tech than marketing?

jonas21 3y ago
Because marketers don't make a product. They're just locked in a zero-sum game for attention. Most tech companies at least start with the goal of improving the world in some way.
- jen20 3y ago
  Most tech companies post 2000 are marketing companies in disguise, whose only goal is to enshitify products in service of recurring revenue and spy on users to harvest data. They might have a public statement of “improving the world”, but this is usually a brazen attempt to hide their actual goals.
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ndsipa_pomu 3y ago
Marketing is all about manipulation
brvsft 3y ago
I tend to view marketing as an industry where it is easier to 'fake it til you make it' versus tech or software engineering. But I definitely can see some arguments otherwise. I just view being able to sustain oneself purely on "bullshitting" other people as a bit harder to do in tech only because, typically, tech businesses have to output an actual software product. But I realize there are a handful of counterexamples, I still view those as anecdotal data. I'll admit, I don't think their is scientific proof one way or the other, I just view "marketing" as an easier industry for "bullshitters" to climb their way to the top.
- jen20 3y ago
  This might be true (and I agree!) - but there are plenty of forms of sociopathy that are not bullshitting and “faking it until you (maybe) make it”.

lapinot 3y ago

#noteveryceo ...

colonwqbang 3y ago

Google and facebook are digital marketing companies.

brvsft 3y ago
Not remotely the same as digital marketing companies that do their work creating ad campaigns for clients. Google and FB are ad platforms whose primary products are software.
mywittyname 3y ago
They build the tools and platforms for digital marketing, but Google at least, outsources the actual digital marketing to third parties. If you reach out to their sales team for "enterprise" GMP solutions, you'll be connected with a reseller.