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I hope it's good enough to finally ditch 1Password.

by drcongo 4y ago

hammyhavoc 4y ago
Why not Vaultwarden?
- smcleod 4y ago
  Isn't that another electron "app"?
- tommiegannert 4y ago
  (Another user) I've been trying to switch from Keeweb, and Vaultwarden is extremely keyboard-unfriendly in comparison. Perhaps the normal user only use it for auto-completing web forms using a browser extension, but I feel it's actively painful to use the web interface.
  - hammyhavoc 4y ago
    Have you tried the desktop application? (I haven't, but there is one, which is assumedly better) If not, Bitwarden clients are open source, might be worth raising a feature request or offering someone a few bucks to implement what you want to see if you can't DIY. With my particular use case, I don't auto-fill as that's a security vuln waiting to happen.
  - itsbenweeks 4y ago
    Curious why you're looking to switch from KeeWeb. Been using KeeWeb for several years and have been really happy with it for my desktop.
    - tommiegannert 4y ago
      I'm looking for something with integrated storage that enables emergency delegation and securely sharing of passwords within the family.
beardedwizard 4y ago
Why? Why even pursue another password manager at all when they are about to be totally dead anyway...
- ValentineC 4y ago
  Would you like to explain why they are "about to be totally dead"?
  - devonkim 4y ago
    I’m guessing PassKeys / WebAuthn rolling out everywhere but at the same time not every site will get it I know. After all, there’s still sites in 2023 that ask users to limit their password length to 16 and only use certain characters.
    - beardedwizard 4y ago
      Totally true, but it's a shrinking market - even 1password already announced a pivot to passkeys
16bitvoid 4y ago
What's wrong with 1Password?
- aareet 4y ago
  Version 8 has been plagued with various bugs with editing, scrolling, sync and stability issues on the Mac and iOS apps. It has become extremely difficult to rely on, and really the only path back to stability has been to downgrade to 1Password v7.
  - CharlesW 4y ago
    > Version 8 has been plagued with various bugs with editing, scrolling, sync and stability issues on the Mac and iOS apps. FWIW: I was a very vocal complainer about v8 issues and was actively searching for alternatives. However, v8 finally doesn't suck and I'm satisfied for now. I'm hoping they learned a bunch of lessons from that completely botched launch.
    - aareet 4y ago
      Hmm, maybe I’ll give it another go in a few months. I last tried it in January and immediately regretted the upgrade. Probably the most glaring issue for me was that the edit button opened a different item than what you were viewing, and resulted in multiple unintentional password overwrites.
  - wellthisisgreat 4y ago
    hmm which OSX / iOS versions are you on? The OS-es I mean? the latest ones? I'm on latest and it's been smooth sailing with 1P, but reading your comment, I am concerned I may be overlooking something, especially in the "sync" space as those kind of issues may creep up on you undetected
    - aareet 4y ago
      I last tried it in January and I was on the latest of everything - OSes, apps. I said this to the poster above but the straw on the camel’s back for me was when I realized hitting the edit button took me to the wrong entry and that I have unintentionally overwritten a bunch of unrelated passwords on the iOS app. Re: sync, I ran into some issues syncing between the safari extension and the iOS apps that resulted in some sort of reconciliation issue. I was already downgraded by that point though and not in the mood to investigate. Edit: looks like someone has posted about the issue in their support community although it has devolved a bit into a hot topic. https://1password.community/discussion/138165/edit-jumps-to-the-wrong-entry https://1password.community/discussion/138165/edit-jumps-to-...

I hope it's good enough to finally ditch 1Password.

hammyhavoc 4y ago

Why not Vaultwarden?

smcleod 4y ago
Isn't that another electron "app"?
tommiegannert 4y ago
(Another user) I've been trying to switch from Keeweb, and Vaultwarden is extremely keyboard-unfriendly in comparison. Perhaps the normal user only use it for auto-completing web forms using a browser extension, but I feel it's actively painful to use the web interface.
- hammyhavoc 4y ago
  Have you tried the desktop application? (I haven't, but there is one, which is assumedly better) If not, Bitwarden clients are open source, might be worth raising a feature request or offering someone a few bucks to implement what you want to see if you can't DIY. With my particular use case, I don't auto-fill as that's a security vuln waiting to happen.
- itsbenweeks 4y ago
  Curious why you're looking to switch from KeeWeb. Been using KeeWeb for several years and have been really happy with it for my desktop.
  - tommiegannert 4y ago
    I'm looking for something with integrated storage that enables emergency delegation and securely sharing of passwords within the family.

beardedwizard 4y ago

Why? Why even pursue another password manager at all when they are about to be totally dead anyway...

ValentineC 4y ago
Would you like to explain why they are "about to be totally dead"?
- devonkim 4y ago
  I’m guessing PassKeys / WebAuthn rolling out everywhere but at the same time not every site will get it I know. After all, there’s still sites in 2023 that ask users to limit their password length to 16 and only use certain characters.
  - beardedwizard 4y ago
    Totally true, but it's a shrinking market - even 1password already announced a pivot to passkeys

16bitvoid 4y ago

What's wrong with 1Password?

aareet 4y ago
Version 8 has been plagued with various bugs with editing, scrolling, sync and stability issues on the Mac and iOS apps. It has become extremely difficult to rely on, and really the only path back to stability has been to downgrade to 1Password v7.
- CharlesW 4y ago
  > Version 8 has been plagued with various bugs with editing, scrolling, sync and stability issues on the Mac and iOS apps. FWIW: I was a very vocal complainer about v8 issues and was actively searching for alternatives. However, v8 finally doesn't suck and I'm satisfied for now. I'm hoping they learned a bunch of lessons from that completely botched launch.
  - aareet 4y ago
    Hmm, maybe I’ll give it another go in a few months. I last tried it in January and immediately regretted the upgrade. Probably the most glaring issue for me was that the edit button opened a different item than what you were viewing, and resulted in multiple unintentional password overwrites.
- wellthisisgreat 4y ago
  hmm which OSX / iOS versions are you on? The OS-es I mean? the latest ones? I'm on latest and it's been smooth sailing with 1P, but reading your comment, I am concerned I may be overlooking something, especially in the "sync" space as those kind of issues may creep up on you undetected
  - aareet 4y ago
    I last tried it in January and I was on the latest of everything - OSes, apps. I said this to the poster above but the straw on the camel’s back for me was when I realized hitting the edit button took me to the wrong entry and that I have unintentionally overwritten a bunch of unrelated passwords on the iOS app. Re: sync, I ran into some issues syncing between the safari extension and the iOS apps that resulted in some sort of reconciliation issue. I was already downgraded by that point though and not in the mood to investigate. Edit: looks like someone has posted about the issue in their support community although it has devolved a bit into a hot topic. https://1password.community/discussion/138165/edit-jumps-to-the-wrong-entry https://1password.community/discussion/138165/edit-jumps-to-...