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USA should import indian plant-based food, not the other way around. If India / Asia starts eating as much meat/dairy as Americans/Europeans do, we're @#$%^&*.

by myshpa 4y ago

USA should import indian plant-based food, not the other way around. If India / Asia starts eating as much meat/dairy as Americans/Europeans do, we're @#$%^&*. https://ourworldindata.org/land-use-diets https://ourworldindata.org/land-use-diets https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/per-capita-meat-type?country=USA~IND~OWID_WRL~Europe~Africa~AUS~Asia~North+America~South+America https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/per-capita-meat-type?coun...

rayiner 4y ago
You know Lahore is in Pakistan, right? I’m Pakistan/Bangladesh, we have a rich meat eating cuisine. That includes meat curries for breakfast, which is probably is the winning breakfast worldwide.
- myshpa 4y ago
  Mea culpa :) https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/per-capita-meat-type?country=USA~IND~OWID_WRL~Europe~Africa~AUS~Asia~North+America~South+America~PAK https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/per-capita-meat-type?coun... (updated, Pakistan 20kg/person/year, 5x less people than India)
- selimthegrim 4y ago
  Tangent: For some reason Taheri in Bangladesh refers to a meat and rice dish while in Pakistan it refers exclusively to a vegetable/potato and rice dish. I’ve never been able to figure out why. You would never hear about a “meat taheri” in Pakistan.
  - 2Gkashmiri 4y ago
    And in my hometown, tahri is a blanket term for turmeric rice that is literally handed out on streets (everyone just waits for a turn, puts up their hands, gets a handful and consumes on spot) for free. Its varieties include additives like chicken or meat but that's about it. Almost always its given as a way of offering to "feed the poor" and anyone around just turns up and is given a handful. Don't know if any other place does something similar. Edit: yeah, plain tahri is just rice cooked with turmeric and garnished with deep fried onions or spring onions. A way to mass feed a lot of people for cheap.
    - alephnerd 4y ago
      My parents use the word "Tahri" to reference the gravy in your kadhi/salan. So maybe it's just a holdover term to dig don't any pulao mixed with a tharka? At least the "tahri chawal" dish I'm looking at on google seems to be what my parents call pulao
      - 2Gkashmiri 4y ago
        Pulao is something different. Our version of rice is plain, without embellishments. A paupers food. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJP3x46PCZs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJP3x46PCZs And a random pulao recipe https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rkZvJ8GLaE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rkZvJ8GLaE
    - HeyLaughingBoy 4y ago
      ngl, that sounds like a great, quick lunch for when I don't want to put much effort into cooking.
      - 2Gkashmiri 4y ago
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJP3x46PCZs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJP3x46PCZs
  - rayiner 4y ago
    Looks like the internet doesn't know either! I wasn't even aware of the veg version until today.
  - rayiner 4y ago
    I asked Chat GPT: > Tehari is a rice-based dish that is popular in Bangladesh and Pakistan, as well as other parts of South Asia. While the basic preparation of the dish is similar, there can be differences in the ingredients and flavor profiles used in Bangladeshi and Pakistani versions of Tehari. > One of the main differences between Bangladeshi and Pakistani Tehari is the type of meat used. In some regions of Bangladesh, beef is a popular choice for Tehari, while in Pakistan, goat or lamb may be more commonly used. In some regions of Pakistan, there are also variations of Tehari that are made with chicken or fish. > Another difference is the level of spiciness. Bangladeshi Tehari is often spicier, with the use of more hot chili peppers and spices such as cinnamon and cardamom. Pakistani Tehari, on the other hand, may be milder in flavor, with the use of more subtle spices such as cumin and coriander. > The type of rice used can also differ. In Bangladesh, aromatic long-grain rice such as Basmati is often used, while in Pakistan, a shorter grain rice may be used. > Finally, there can be variations in the way the dish is served. In Bangladesh, Tehari is often served with a side of lentil soup and a hard-boiled egg, while in Pakistan, it may be served with a side of raita (a yogurt-based side dish) or pickles. > Overall, while both Bangladeshi and Pakistani Tehari share many similarities, there can be subtle differences in the ingredients and preparation that reflect the culinary traditions and preferences of each region.
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delta_p_delta_x 4y ago
> indian plant-based food In India, they just call it food. About 40% of Indians are vegetarian[1]. [1]: https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2021/07/08/eight-in-ten-indians-limit-meat-in-their-diets-and-four-in-ten-consider-themselves-vegetarian/ https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2021/07/08/eight-in-te...
- hackernewds 4y ago
  And the vegetarian / vegan food in India is fantastic!
- coldtea 4y ago
  A lot of them because they are making a virtue out of necessity (vegeterian food being cheaper). The cultural aspects on top are the dressing.
  - delta_p_delta_x 4y ago
    > vegeterian food being cheaper This is how it should be everywhere. Non-vegetarian food is massively subsidised in the West. A Big Mac ought to cost tens of dollars, not five.
    - coldtea 4y ago
      Of course. I was more pointing to the fact that they can't afford it as much (so the wages/meat price gap), as opposed to the relative price difference with vegetables. But of course, vegetables and such should be cheaper than meat.
trabant00 4y ago
I'm really starting to resent the dumping of responsibility on the average guy. We can't even enjoy a steak sandwich any more without having guilt shoved down our throat even though we are responsible for minimal environmental impact. https://www.theguardian.com/sustainable-business/2017/jul/10/100-fossil-fuel-companies-investors-responsible-71-global-emissions-cdp-study-climate-change https://www.theguardian.com/sustainable-business/2017/jul/10... https://www.industrytap.com/worlds-15-biggest-ships-create-more-pollution-than-all-the-cars-in-the-world https://www.industrytap.com/worlds-15-biggest-ships-create-m... https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-56723560 https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-56723560 The media keeps picking on my stakes, ICE engines, decently warm home, etc, because they get paid to divert attention. And then the naive do gooders pick it up and hammer their fellow working class citizens. For what? If everybody on my level makes his life 50% less comfortable we won't even make a single digit percent dent on the environment impact. Don't shit on the environment. Don't leave the lights and heating on for no reason, don't throw trash in nature, don't get a 7 liter engine for in town driving and so on. Those are the only kind of things an average guy can realistically do. And most of it he can't afford to do anyway. But when you come after my steak sandwich this is where I draw the line.
- namdnay 4y ago
  I think you're misunderstanding the articles... > https://www.theguardian.com/sustainable-business/2017/jul/10/100-fossil-fuel-companies-investors-responsible-71-global-emissions-cdp-study-climate-change https://www.theguardian.com/sustainable-business/2017/jul/10... you're saying that the big polluters are Shell and Aramco, and then complaining that we're asking you to stop using ICE engines? Who do you think Shell are selling all this oil to? > https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-56723560 https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-56723560 "The wealthiest 5% alone – the so-called “polluter elite” - contributed 37% of emissions growth between 1990 and 2015." Given the forum we are conversing in, I'm pretty certain we're all in the world's wealthiest 5%.. > Don't shit on the environment. Don't leave the lights and heating on for no reason, don't throw trash in nature, don't get a 7 liter engine for in town driving and so on. Those are the only kind of things an average guy can realistically do. And most of it he can't afford to do anyway. But when you come after my steak sandwich this is where I draw the line. So basically, "don't make me do anything I don't want to do" ?
sourcecodeplz 4y ago
Hypocritical much? The entitlement is strong in this one. Unbelievable really!

by myshpa 4y ago

rayiner 4y ago

You know Lahore is in Pakistan, right? I’m Pakistan/Bangladesh, we have a rich meat eating cuisine. That includes meat curries for breakfast, which is probably is the winning breakfast worldwide.

myshpa 4y ago
Mea culpa :) https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/per-capita-meat-type?country=USA~IND~OWID_WRL~Europe~Africa~AUS~Asia~North+America~South+America~PAK https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/per-capita-meat-type?coun... (updated, Pakistan 20kg/person/year, 5x less people than India)
selimthegrim 4y ago
Tangent: For some reason Taheri in Bangladesh refers to a meat and rice dish while in Pakistan it refers exclusively to a vegetable/potato and rice dish. I’ve never been able to figure out why. You would never hear about a “meat taheri” in Pakistan.
- 2Gkashmiri 4y ago
  And in my hometown, tahri is a blanket term for turmeric rice that is literally handed out on streets (everyone just waits for a turn, puts up their hands, gets a handful and consumes on spot) for free. Its varieties include additives like chicken or meat but that's about it. Almost always its given as a way of offering to "feed the poor" and anyone around just turns up and is given a handful. Don't know if any other place does something similar. Edit: yeah, plain tahri is just rice cooked with turmeric and garnished with deep fried onions or spring onions. A way to mass feed a lot of people for cheap.
  - alephnerd 4y ago
    My parents use the word "Tahri" to reference the gravy in your kadhi/salan. So maybe it's just a holdover term to dig don't any pulao mixed with a tharka? At least the "tahri chawal" dish I'm looking at on google seems to be what my parents call pulao
    - 2Gkashmiri 4y ago
      Pulao is something different. Our version of rice is plain, without embellishments. A paupers food. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJP3x46PCZs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJP3x46PCZs And a random pulao recipe https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rkZvJ8GLaE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rkZvJ8GLaE
  - HeyLaughingBoy 4y ago
    ngl, that sounds like a great, quick lunch for when I don't want to put much effort into cooking.
    - 2Gkashmiri 4y ago
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJP3x46PCZs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJP3x46PCZs
- rayiner 4y ago
  Looks like the internet doesn't know either! I wasn't even aware of the veg version until today.
- rayiner 4y ago
  I asked Chat GPT: > Tehari is a rice-based dish that is popular in Bangladesh and Pakistan, as well as other parts of South Asia. While the basic preparation of the dish is similar, there can be differences in the ingredients and flavor profiles used in Bangladeshi and Pakistani versions of Tehari. > One of the main differences between Bangladeshi and Pakistani Tehari is the type of meat used. In some regions of Bangladesh, beef is a popular choice for Tehari, while in Pakistan, goat or lamb may be more commonly used. In some regions of Pakistan, there are also variations of Tehari that are made with chicken or fish. > Another difference is the level of spiciness. Bangladeshi Tehari is often spicier, with the use of more hot chili peppers and spices such as cinnamon and cardamom. Pakistani Tehari, on the other hand, may be milder in flavor, with the use of more subtle spices such as cumin and coriander. > The type of rice used can also differ. In Bangladesh, aromatic long-grain rice such as Basmati is often used, while in Pakistan, a shorter grain rice may be used. > Finally, there can be variations in the way the dish is served. In Bangladesh, Tehari is often served with a side of lentil soup and a hard-boiled egg, while in Pakistan, it may be served with a side of raita (a yogurt-based side dish) or pickles. > Overall, while both Bangladeshi and Pakistani Tehari share many similarities, there can be subtle differences in the ingredients and preparation that reflect the culinary traditions and preferences of each region.

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delta_p_delta_x 4y ago

> indian plant-based food In India, they just call it food. About 40% of Indians are vegetarian[1]. [1]: https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2021/07/08/eight-in-ten-indians-limit-meat-in-their-diets-and-four-in-ten-consider-themselves-vegetarian/ https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2021/07/08/eight-in-te...

hackernewds 4y ago
And the vegetarian / vegan food in India is fantastic!
coldtea 4y ago
A lot of them because they are making a virtue out of necessity (vegeterian food being cheaper). The cultural aspects on top are the dressing.
- delta_p_delta_x 4y ago
  > vegeterian food being cheaper This is how it should be everywhere. Non-vegetarian food is massively subsidised in the West. A Big Mac ought to cost tens of dollars, not five.
  - coldtea 4y ago
    Of course. I was more pointing to the fact that they can't afford it as much (so the wages/meat price gap), as opposed to the relative price difference with vegetables. But of course, vegetables and such should be cheaper than meat.

trabant00 4y ago

I'm really starting to resent the dumping of responsibility on the average guy. We can't even enjoy a steak sandwich any more without having guilt shoved down our throat even though we are responsible for minimal environmental impact. https://www.theguardian.com/sustainable-business/2017/jul/10/100-fossil-fuel-companies-investors-responsible-71-global-emissions-cdp-study-climate-change https://www.theguardian.com/sustainable-business/2017/jul/10... https://www.industrytap.com/worlds-15-biggest-ships-create-more-pollution-than-all-the-cars-in-the-world https://www.industrytap.com/worlds-15-biggest-ships-create-m... https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-56723560 https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-56723560 The media keeps picking on my stakes, ICE engines, decently warm home, etc, because they get paid to divert attention. And then the naive do gooders pick it up and hammer their fellow working class citizens. For what? If everybody on my level makes his life 50% less comfortable we won't even make a single digit percent dent on the environment impact. Don't shit on the environment. Don't leave the lights and heating on for no reason, don't throw trash in nature, don't get a 7 liter engine for in town driving and so on. Those are the only kind of things an average guy can realistically do. And most of it he can't afford to do anyway. But when you come after my steak sandwich this is where I draw the line.

namdnay 4y ago
I think you're misunderstanding the articles... > https://www.theguardian.com/sustainable-business/2017/jul/10/100-fossil-fuel-companies-investors-responsible-71-global-emissions-cdp-study-climate-change https://www.theguardian.com/sustainable-business/2017/jul/10... you're saying that the big polluters are Shell and Aramco, and then complaining that we're asking you to stop using ICE engines? Who do you think Shell are selling all this oil to? > https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-56723560 https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-56723560 "The wealthiest 5% alone – the so-called “polluter elite” - contributed 37% of emissions growth between 1990 and 2015." Given the forum we are conversing in, I'm pretty certain we're all in the world's wealthiest 5%.. > Don't shit on the environment. Don't leave the lights and heating on for no reason, don't throw trash in nature, don't get a 7 liter engine for in town driving and so on. Those are the only kind of things an average guy can realistically do. And most of it he can't afford to do anyway. But when you come after my steak sandwich this is where I draw the line. So basically, "don't make me do anything I don't want to do" ?

sourcecodeplz 4y ago

Hypocritical much? The entitlement is strong in this one. Unbelievable really!