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Lived in Philly for a few years and my family is from there. Makes sense that the Cheesesteak would be a popular export. Its origins are Italian, and like othe

Lived in Philly for a few years and my family is from there. Makes sense that the Cheesesteak would be a popular export. Its origins are Italian, and like other Italian foods you can make it anywhere if you get the prep and the ingredients right. It's also heavily customizable and can last a while like pizza. IMO getting the bread right is the hard part, but I imagine a good chef will recognize that quickly. Philly has special bakeries that supply a lot of the steak places (Amorosos, etc). Also I'm sorry but cheese wiz is disgusting. Get Provolone :).

rdl 3y ago
Agree about cheese wiz being gross, but American cheese is fine too. I do like provolone + marinara sauce ("pizza steak"), though. (I've had better steaks in Philly suburbs and NJ than in the city itself, too.)
- JackMorgan 3y ago
  It's wild but true, the best steaks are out in the suburbs
MuffinFlavored 3y ago
how often should one eat a philly cheesesteak? i feel like the answer is “almost never” given the high amount of beef + cheese (calories, fat, etc.) typical philly cheesesteak is like… 800-1600 calories from what i can tell and not very much nutritional value. am i being dramatic?
- MiscIdeaMaker99 3y ago
  As often as you feel like.
  - MuffinFlavored 3y ago
    Isn't there strong evidence in obesity + heart disease cases that this is a poor decision?
    - red-iron-pine 3y ago
      Cheesesteaks don't happen in a vacuum. What's your breakfast look like? Dinner? Wake up and shovel donuts into your face, and then pack a bunch more carbs and fat at dinner and yeah that cheesesteak will definitely help kill you. Eating mostly veggies and reasonable choices + a couple of cheesesteaks a week and you'll be alright.
    - HeyLaughingBoy 3y ago
      Depends. Do you sit on your ass all day long, or are you working physically hard outside?
- xboxnolifes 3y ago
  very dramatic.
- organsnyder 3y ago
  An occasional cheesesteak won't kill you.
  - deleted 3y ago
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- leviathant 3y ago
  When I worked in old city Philly, I'd get one (a pizza steak for me tyvm) probably twice a month - in between the halal cart, pizza, wraps & frites from European Republic, and a nicer lunch from nearby restaurants on Friday.
- camdenreslink 3y ago
  You can have a large meal every once in a while without large negative health effects. Just limit your calories the rest of the day and don’t do it all the time. Also, I wouldn’t say it has little nutritional value…it’s full of protein and carbs (which are nutrients).
  - MuffinFlavored 3y ago
    I guess my question was from a stance of, Philadelphia is famous for their cheesesteaks. How often are the residents that live there truly having a cheesesteak? Once a month? Three times a week?
    - lchengify 3y ago
      I would say Philly is famous for it's food generally. Philly is one of the best places in the northeast to get high quality food at reasonable prices. Especially sandwiches. Speaking strictly for myself, it's like a game day thing, but when I was younger it was up to twice a week. If you get full you can eat half and stick the other half in the fridge. Now a days if I'm doing a steak later in the day, it means I'm skipping a meal beforehand. I'll also ask them to add vegetables so it makes you feel full faster. The big differentiator isn't really the calories but the cost. Like other Philly food, it's very affordable for not being fast food. It also gets cheaper if you order it in batches for parties, and it keeps super well so there are always leftovers. Because of this you just see it around Philly a lot.
    - MivLives 3y ago
      Depends how old you are and what you're doing with your life. The construction workers might eat one several times a week from a cart. An office worker might only eat one late at night as 2 am food after the bars closed. When I was in college there maybe once a month. The under appreciated chicken cheese steak is probably worse for you.
toastal 3y ago
> heavily customizable I like cheesesteaks every once in a while, but the green chile versions around the US Southwest were my absolute favorite. I wish I could get them where live now. The tikka version mentioned in the article really piqued my interest though.
- hahla 3y ago
  There is a restaurant that makes Indian spiced chicken cheese steaks in Philly that’s gotten very popular. Try this recipe with your choice of meat, it’s not a tikka version but it’s delicious! https://thechutneylife.com/recipes/dinner/spicy-chicken-cheesesteaks/ https://thechutneylife.com/recipes/dinner/spicy-chicken-chee...
  - jrochkind1 3y ago
    I love this. When reading the article about people using south asian spices for cheesesteaks, I thought, gee that sounds amazing possibly even an improvement, I'd like to try that... and now I can get it philly too! Humans can't resist mixing food cultures. And music. Always where the best stuff comes from.
esperent 3y ago
> IMO getting the bread right is the hard part Do you have a good recipe? I've been wanting to add a really authentic Philly Cheesesteak to our menu at our bakery here in Vietnam but I don't have a lot of experience with that particular sandwich. I know the American expats here would appreciate if we get it right though.
- sbuccini 3y ago
  Drop a link to your bakery, I'd like to come visit!
  - esperent 3y ago
    Thom's Sourdough Bakery by the beach just outside Hoi An. Come say hi if you're in town. https://maps.app.goo.gl/J6zaGxcYAh3RJm788 https://maps.app.goo.gl/J6zaGxcYAh3RJm788
- throw7 3y ago
  this guy (charlie anderson) is currently trying to replicate the philly roll (for a philly cheesesteak, his prior take was ny style pizza): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvgurFUheY8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvgurFUheY8
- MivLives 3y ago
  I'm originally from Philly, and I've had a cheesesteak on banh mi roll a few times. It makes a very good approximation at least to me. The Philly rolls tend to be tougher and ready to handy the sheer amount of grease that pours off the sandwich. Stick to provolone and caramelized onions as the only default toppings. Ketchup and such should be added by the eater, and realistically only if it's a bad steak.
- bcbrown 3y ago
  I'm not from Philly, but my mom is, and every time I went back east I ate plenty of cheese steaks. To me, the essense of the bread is a chewyness, a toothiness. The crumb is substantial, the crust is minimal. If you bake bread in Vietnam than you must have a good understanding of a french-style baguette, right? That's a bread where the crust is shattering-crisp and the internal crumb is light and pillowy, yeah? The roll for a cheese steak is the opposite. My grandmom's theory was that it was the water from the Schuylkill that made the rolls inimitable. I wish I had a recipe I could share with you, but instead I can only wish you luck.

rdl 3y ago

Agree about cheese wiz being gross, but American cheese is fine too. I do like provolone + marinara sauce ("pizza steak"), though. (I've had better steaks in Philly suburbs and NJ than in the city itself, too.)

JackMorgan 3y ago
It's wild but true, the best steaks are out in the suburbs

MuffinFlavored 3y ago

how often should one eat a philly cheesesteak? i feel like the answer is “almost never” given the high amount of beef + cheese (calories, fat, etc.) typical philly cheesesteak is like… 800-1600 calories from what i can tell and not very much nutritional value. am i being dramatic?

MiscIdeaMaker99 3y ago
As often as you feel like.
- MuffinFlavored 3y ago
  Isn't there strong evidence in obesity + heart disease cases that this is a poor decision?
  - red-iron-pine 3y ago
    Cheesesteaks don't happen in a vacuum. What's your breakfast look like? Dinner? Wake up and shovel donuts into your face, and then pack a bunch more carbs and fat at dinner and yeah that cheesesteak will definitely help kill you. Eating mostly veggies and reasonable choices + a couple of cheesesteaks a week and you'll be alright.
  - HeyLaughingBoy 3y ago
    Depends. Do you sit on your ass all day long, or are you working physically hard outside?
xboxnolifes 3y ago
very dramatic.
organsnyder 3y ago
An occasional cheesesteak won't kill you.
- deleted 3y ago
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leviathant 3y ago
When I worked in old city Philly, I'd get one (a pizza steak for me tyvm) probably twice a month - in between the halal cart, pizza, wraps & frites from European Republic, and a nicer lunch from nearby restaurants on Friday.
camdenreslink 3y ago
You can have a large meal every once in a while without large negative health effects. Just limit your calories the rest of the day and don’t do it all the time. Also, I wouldn’t say it has little nutritional value…it’s full of protein and carbs (which are nutrients).
- MuffinFlavored 3y ago
  I guess my question was from a stance of, Philadelphia is famous for their cheesesteaks. How often are the residents that live there truly having a cheesesteak? Once a month? Three times a week?
  - lchengify 3y ago
    I would say Philly is famous for it's food generally. Philly is one of the best places in the northeast to get high quality food at reasonable prices. Especially sandwiches. Speaking strictly for myself, it's like a game day thing, but when I was younger it was up to twice a week. If you get full you can eat half and stick the other half in the fridge. Now a days if I'm doing a steak later in the day, it means I'm skipping a meal beforehand. I'll also ask them to add vegetables so it makes you feel full faster. The big differentiator isn't really the calories but the cost. Like other Philly food, it's very affordable for not being fast food. It also gets cheaper if you order it in batches for parties, and it keeps super well so there are always leftovers. Because of this you just see it around Philly a lot.
  - MivLives 3y ago
    Depends how old you are and what you're doing with your life. The construction workers might eat one several times a week from a cart. An office worker might only eat one late at night as 2 am food after the bars closed. When I was in college there maybe once a month. The under appreciated chicken cheese steak is probably worse for you.

toastal 3y ago

> heavily customizable I like cheesesteaks every once in a while, but the green chile versions around the US Southwest were my absolute favorite. I wish I could get them where live now. The tikka version mentioned in the article really piqued my interest though.

hahla 3y ago
There is a restaurant that makes Indian spiced chicken cheese steaks in Philly that’s gotten very popular. Try this recipe with your choice of meat, it’s not a tikka version but it’s delicious! https://thechutneylife.com/recipes/dinner/spicy-chicken-cheesesteaks/ https://thechutneylife.com/recipes/dinner/spicy-chicken-chee...
- jrochkind1 3y ago
  I love this. When reading the article about people using south asian spices for cheesesteaks, I thought, gee that sounds amazing possibly even an improvement, I'd like to try that... and now I can get it philly too! Humans can't resist mixing food cultures. And music. Always where the best stuff comes from.

esperent 3y ago

> IMO getting the bread right is the hard part Do you have a good recipe? I've been wanting to add a really authentic Philly Cheesesteak to our menu at our bakery here in Vietnam but I don't have a lot of experience with that particular sandwich. I know the American expats here would appreciate if we get it right though.

sbuccini 3y ago
Drop a link to your bakery, I'd like to come visit!
- esperent 3y ago
  Thom's Sourdough Bakery by the beach just outside Hoi An. Come say hi if you're in town. https://maps.app.goo.gl/J6zaGxcYAh3RJm788 https://maps.app.goo.gl/J6zaGxcYAh3RJm788
throw7 3y ago
this guy (charlie anderson) is currently trying to replicate the philly roll (for a philly cheesesteak, his prior take was ny style pizza): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvgurFUheY8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvgurFUheY8
MivLives 3y ago
I'm originally from Philly, and I've had a cheesesteak on banh mi roll a few times. It makes a very good approximation at least to me. The Philly rolls tend to be tougher and ready to handy the sheer amount of grease that pours off the sandwich. Stick to provolone and caramelized onions as the only default toppings. Ketchup and such should be added by the eater, and realistically only if it's a bad steak.
bcbrown 3y ago
I'm not from Philly, but my mom is, and every time I went back east I ate plenty of cheese steaks. To me, the essense of the bread is a chewyness, a toothiness. The crumb is substantial, the crust is minimal. If you bake bread in Vietnam than you must have a good understanding of a french-style baguette, right? That's a bread where the crust is shattering-crisp and the internal crumb is light and pillowy, yeah? The roll for a cheese steak is the opposite. My grandmom's theory was that it was the water from the Schuylkill that made the rolls inimitable. I wish I had a recipe I could share with you, but instead I can only wish you luck.