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> I definitely think the choice to keep it has always been childish, ridiculous, and perhaps literally the greatest barrier that has kept it from being a much m

> I definitely think the choice to keep it has always been childish, ridiculous, and perhaps literally the greatest barrier that has kept it from being a much more serious competitor to Adobe stuff. I seriously doubt that. There's a project called Glimpse which is (afaik) just a rebranding of GIMP to be more acceptable. It was popular for a brief 15 minutes, then was forgotten.

jrm4 4y ago
That was, I think too little too late. I believe they were more of a fork than a pure rebranding?
- nojonestownpls 4y ago
  I based that off a HN comment I read in the past, but looking into it now, that doesn't seem too far off base. The changes mentioned in the release notes[1] are all about rebranding - replacing on-screen text, logos, docs, etc. There are a couple non-branding-related changes like changes to keyboards shortcuts, but it seems fair to call it more of a rebrand than a fork. It does help me appreciate how much work goes into just this "surface-level" stuff of cross-platform public use Open Source software. [1] https://github.com/glimpse-editor/Glimpse/releases https://github.com/glimpse-editor/Glimpse/releases
  - jrm4 3y ago
    Fair, I'd still maintain too little too late. "Glimpse" didn't happen until much later. A point I made above; I think people are really WAY too inside their own silos. I work at a university, I've also done non-profit work with children who are LEARNING this stuff. And now, what does it look like, me like "Hey kids, try GIMP?"
    - nojonestownpls 3y ago
      I'm only seeing this now (so not sure if you'll read this), but: The thing is, vast swathes of the world doesn't know what that word means. I didn't know it until I learned about this controversy. If the name had been the "greatest barrier" to its acceptance, GIMP would have been taken up in a LOT of the poorer countries, both because it's free and almost no one knows the word well enough to see it as offensive. Maybe the name played a role in some small way in US academic institutions or something similar to that. But without more fundamental issues (usability issues, stability problems in the past, UI latency, a thousand other little papercuts), the name itself would not have been a great barrier for GIMP.

jrm4 4y ago

That was, I think too little too late. I believe they were more of a fork than a pure rebranding?

nojonestownpls 4y ago
I based that off a HN comment I read in the past, but looking into it now, that doesn't seem too far off base. The changes mentioned in the release notes[1] are all about rebranding - replacing on-screen text, logos, docs, etc. There are a couple non-branding-related changes like changes to keyboards shortcuts, but it seems fair to call it more of a rebrand than a fork. It does help me appreciate how much work goes into just this "surface-level" stuff of cross-platform public use Open Source software. [1] https://github.com/glimpse-editor/Glimpse/releases https://github.com/glimpse-editor/Glimpse/releases
- jrm4 3y ago
  Fair, I'd still maintain too little too late. "Glimpse" didn't happen until much later. A point I made above; I think people are really WAY too inside their own silos. I work at a university, I've also done non-profit work with children who are LEARNING this stuff. And now, what does it look like, me like "Hey kids, try GIMP?"
  - nojonestownpls 3y ago
    I'm only seeing this now (so not sure if you'll read this), but: The thing is, vast swathes of the world doesn't know what that word means. I didn't know it until I learned about this controversy. If the name had been the "greatest barrier" to its acceptance, GIMP would have been taken up in a LOT of the poorer countries, both because it's free and almost no one knows the word well enough to see it as offensive. Maybe the name played a role in some small way in US academic institutions or something similar to that. But without more fundamental issues (usability issues, stability problems in the past, UI latency, a thousand other little papercuts), the name itself would not have been a great barrier for GIMP.