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I used to use this package to avoid having to use ENV variables for everything (it pulls config info out of a JSON file instead, and parses both HTTP and FILE u

I used to use this package to avoid having to use ENV variables for everything (it pulls config info out of a JSON file instead, and parses both HTTP and FILE urls to source the JSON file.) But its effectively abandon-ware (hey, at least it's not a commercial tool.) Maybe I should write a similar package in Janet since that's what I'm doing for fun these days. https://www.npmjs.com/package/sn-props https://www.npmjs.com/package/sn-props

Maidul98 4y ago
Hmm, isn't it better for such core tech to be commercial though? Non-comercial tools tend to be abandanoed pretty frequently. As long as there is a generous free tier, I don't think it's an issue at all
- retrocryptid 4y ago
  Core tools like Linux, Apache and Node? (to name a few.) But I think you're talking more like tools that are deployed somewhere (thinking of HashiiCorp Vault, GitHub or AWS.) I guess if you have to run servers to make it add value, then an argument could be made you need a business to collect cash to run the servers. VSCode is another example. It started off as VizDevStudio's free younger sibling, but had grown into quite the solution of its own. So yeah... your assertion isn't crazy. But the reason sn-props was abandoned is it was never advertised outside our small little group. I don't think it adds enough value to warrant putting a company around it, but maybe there's more value buried in there somewhere based on it's interface. Like it could be the interface a kubernetes or lambda like tool uses to communicate config info to apps it automatically starts up in request to scaling events. Or if you wanted to see it survive, you could popularize it among node users and get a community of people updating it after the original company runs out of money. I'm sure non-commercial tools getting abandoned is your experience, but I've been using emacs for about 40 years and non-commercial versions of BSD and Linux for 30. I think I started using gcc in the mid-80s. But the versions of Windows and MacOS I liked have long been EoL'd. I scour ebay to find parts for my Canon Cat. And multiple generations of JTAG probes from otherwise decent companies have gone under the hill. My experience is when a commercial product's market gets too small, it's abandoned just as readily as an open source project.

Maidul98 4y ago

Hmm, isn't it better for such core tech to be commercial though? Non-comercial tools tend to be abandanoed pretty frequently. As long as there is a generous free tier, I don't think it's an issue at all

retrocryptid 4y ago
Core tools like Linux, Apache and Node? (to name a few.) But I think you're talking more like tools that are deployed somewhere (thinking of HashiiCorp Vault, GitHub or AWS.) I guess if you have to run servers to make it add value, then an argument could be made you need a business to collect cash to run the servers. VSCode is another example. It started off as VizDevStudio's free younger sibling, but had grown into quite the solution of its own. So yeah... your assertion isn't crazy. But the reason sn-props was abandoned is it was never advertised outside our small little group. I don't think it adds enough value to warrant putting a company around it, but maybe there's more value buried in there somewhere based on it's interface. Like it could be the interface a kubernetes or lambda like tool uses to communicate config info to apps it automatically starts up in request to scaling events. Or if you wanted to see it survive, you could popularize it among node users and get a community of people updating it after the original company runs out of money. I'm sure non-commercial tools getting abandoned is your experience, but I've been using emacs for about 40 years and non-commercial versions of BSD and Linux for 30. I think I started using gcc in the mid-80s. But the versions of Windows and MacOS I liked have long been EoL'd. I scour ebay to find parts for my Canon Cat. And multiple generations of JTAG probes from otherwise decent companies have gone under the hill. My experience is when a commercial product's market gets too small, it's abandoned just as readily as an open source project.