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Copyright laws govern distribution, and permit noncommercial uses such as archiving copies. Technologically it has never been easier to capture and store media,

Copyright laws govern distribution, and permit noncommercial uses such as archiving copies. Technologically it has never been easier to capture and store media, and many people and organizations do. Things from the 80s are permanently lost simply because no one bothered to preserve copies of them.

ajsnigrutin 4y ago
Yeah it's easy, but nobody does it for real. I live in a small country with a weird language, that was one a part of a larger country with a few other weird languages and a lot of good music. A bunch of that music is lost forever now... some newer artists still play the old songs, but there are no recorded originals. For some songs you can only find shitty quality recordings on youtube when someone recorded an audio tape to a youtube video at shitty quality and split into 10minute chunks. Original recording studios don't exist anymore, CDs maybe existed, maybe not, tapes surely did, but those degraded a lot, modern streaming has made piracy hard, since there are not a lot of listeners who would rip that, and youtube only has that song in a video format, with a video intro, and a silent part in between to make the video make sense (unlike a radio edit). And even if people somehow downloaded and stored that music, how am I supposed to get it too? Torrenting is hard for many people, services like kazaa don't exist anymore, existing torrent sites close down, zero seeders on what's left over and even less ways to actually find it online. Yeah, sure, all that music could fit on a single modern hard drive, but nobody put it there and made it available for others, and in turn, it is lost, either fully (noone has the HQ original anymore) or partially (some people have it, for now, but others are unable to obtain it). I'd much prefer some national archive taking those recordings (music, videos, books, etc.), digitizing them (or preferably starting with a digital version) and then offer it for download after some reasonable amount of time (which would be way shorter than death+70 years). A good indicator for 'when' would be the availability of the media... Am I unable to buy it in a reasonable way for a reasonable price? Ok, it's protected. Noone is selling it anymore, or not selling it in my country (even digitally)... the author/publshed obviously doesn't want my money, so why complain if it's on offer for free. TLDR: think of your favourite non-mainstream band from 20 years ago and try to download their songs.. good luck with that.
- bratwurst3000 4y ago
  What Alan lomax did or what fat possum record are doing is extremely hard work and it’s sad that there aren’t many more people like those. If somone would start a kickstarter to preserve old traditional music I would be the first to support them. Btw if you don’t know them there is a amazing documentary from fat possum about their work on YouTube.

ajsnigrutin 4y ago

Yeah it's easy, but nobody does it for real. I live in a small country with a weird language, that was one a part of a larger country with a few other weird languages and a lot of good music. A bunch of that music is lost forever now... some newer artists still play the old songs, but there are no recorded originals. For some songs you can only find shitty quality recordings on youtube when someone recorded an audio tape to a youtube video at shitty quality and split into 10minute chunks. Original recording studios don't exist anymore, CDs maybe existed, maybe not, tapes surely did, but those degraded a lot, modern streaming has made piracy hard, since there are not a lot of listeners who would rip that, and youtube only has that song in a video format, with a video intro, and a silent part in between to make the video make sense (unlike a radio edit). And even if people somehow downloaded and stored that music, how am I supposed to get it too? Torrenting is hard for many people, services like kazaa don't exist anymore, existing torrent sites close down, zero seeders on what's left over and even less ways to actually find it online. Yeah, sure, all that music could fit on a single modern hard drive, but nobody put it there and made it available for others, and in turn, it is lost, either fully (noone has the HQ original anymore) or partially (some people have it, for now, but others are unable to obtain it). I'd much prefer some national archive taking those recordings (music, videos, books, etc.), digitizing them (or preferably starting with a digital version) and then offer it for download after some reasonable amount of time (which would be way shorter than death+70 years). A good indicator for 'when' would be the availability of the media... Am I unable to buy it in a reasonable way for a reasonable price? Ok, it's protected. Noone is selling it anymore, or not selling it in my country (even digitally)... the author/publshed obviously doesn't want my money, so why complain if it's on offer for free. TLDR: think of your favourite non-mainstream band from 20 years ago and try to download their songs.. good luck with that.

bratwurst3000 4y ago
What Alan lomax did or what fat possum record are doing is extremely hard work and it’s sad that there aren’t many more people like those. If somone would start a kickstarter to preserve old traditional music I would be the first to support them. Btw if you don’t know them there is a amazing documentary from fat possum about their work on YouTube.