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In western parts of Germany something similar happened, for example the Bavarian Soviet Republic. And it ended similar: nationalist troops killed the people. (

In western parts of Germany something similar happened, for example the Bavarian Soviet Republic. And it ended similar: nationalist troops killed the people. (though it was much worse in East Central Europe: Polish-Soviet War, Ukrainian War of Independence) "In the first months of 1919, in the wake of uprisings, soviet republics were proclaimed in Bremen, Munich and Saxony. The deployment of Freikorps troops put a violent end to them by the beginning of May of that year at the latest." https://www.bpb.de/themen/deutschlandarchiv/54085/raete-im-deutschen-reich-1918-1919-runde-tische-in-der-ddr-1989-90/ https://www.bpb.de/themen/deutschlandarchiv/54085/raete-im-d... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bavarian_Soviet_Republic https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bavarian_Soviet_Republic

lo_zamoyski 3y ago
Not sure what you're claiming here: > And it ended similar: nationalist troops killed the people [...] though it was much worse in East Central Europe: Polish-Soviet War, Ukrainian War of Independence The Polish-Soviet War was not a war of "nationalists killing the people". It was a war to prevent the spread of communism and Soviet imperialism. Not only did Poles by and large reject communism (communist sympathy was higher in Germany, for example), and Soviet communism even more so, but Lenin saw Poland as the corridor through which the Red Army would need to pass to support revolution further West.
- hackandthink 3y ago
  The history of East Central Europe is very complicated and contested. Don't know whether there were obvious good guys in the aftermath of WW I. "He (Piłsudski) used military force to expand the Polish borders in Galicia and Volhynia and crush a Ukrainian attempt at self-determination in the disputed territories east of the Curzon Line, which contained a significant Polish minority." Lenin, Trotzki, Piłsudski killed a lot of people because of ideology and nationalism. These Mini-States look more sympathetic.
rebolek 3y ago
not sure who were the nationalists, but soviets were killing people by millions, making nazis jealous how effective were they with killing
- nsajko 3y ago
  > not sure who were the nationalists See Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freikorps https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freikorps > soviets were killing people by millions, making nazis jealous how effective were they with killing You're confusing the USSR ("the soviets") with socialism/communism/other stuff in general.
odiroot 3y ago
> (though it was much worse in East Central Europe: Polish-Soviet War, Ukrainian War of Independence) Poland was actually lucky, because the Soviets lost. At least back then, until they attacked us again in 1939.
lisasays 3y ago
"In the first months of 1919, in the wake of uprisings, soviet republics were proclaimed in Bremen, Munich and Saxony. The deployment of Freikorps troops put a violent end to them by the beginning of May of that year at the latest." Under the direction of the SPD, as led by Frederich Ebert (still revered as the party's patron saint, basically).

lo_zamoyski 3y ago

Not sure what you're claiming here: > And it ended similar: nationalist troops killed the people [...] though it was much worse in East Central Europe: Polish-Soviet War, Ukrainian War of Independence The Polish-Soviet War was not a war of "nationalists killing the people". It was a war to prevent the spread of communism and Soviet imperialism. Not only did Poles by and large reject communism (communist sympathy was higher in Germany, for example), and Soviet communism even more so, but Lenin saw Poland as the corridor through which the Red Army would need to pass to support revolution further West.

hackandthink 3y ago
The history of East Central Europe is very complicated and contested. Don't know whether there were obvious good guys in the aftermath of WW I. "He (Piłsudski) used military force to expand the Polish borders in Galicia and Volhynia and crush a Ukrainian attempt at self-determination in the disputed territories east of the Curzon Line, which contained a significant Polish minority." Lenin, Trotzki, Piłsudski killed a lot of people because of ideology and nationalism. These Mini-States look more sympathetic.

rebolek 3y ago

not sure who were the nationalists, but soviets were killing people by millions, making nazis jealous how effective were they with killing

nsajko 3y ago
> not sure who were the nationalists See Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freikorps https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freikorps > soviets were killing people by millions, making nazis jealous how effective were they with killing You're confusing the USSR ("the soviets") with socialism/communism/other stuff in general.

odiroot 3y ago

> (though it was much worse in East Central Europe: Polish-Soviet War, Ukrainian War of Independence) Poland was actually lucky, because the Soviets lost. At least back then, until they attacked us again in 1939.

lisasays 3y ago

"In the first months of 1919, in the wake of uprisings, soviet republics were proclaimed in Bremen, Munich and Saxony. The deployment of Freikorps troops put a violent end to them by the beginning of May of that year at the latest." Under the direction of the SPD, as led by Frederich Ebert (still revered as the party's patron saint, basically).