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It's actually work IIRC. Again, out of the game for 15 years but they used to be subsystems - these ABI compatibility layers Windows had one for DOS, Windows 1

It's actually work IIRC. Again, out of the game for 15 years but they used to be subsystems - these ABI compatibility layers Windows had one for DOS, Windows 16, "posix" and "os/2" with the last two in air quotes because it was only a subsection and they claimed mission accomplished - I think it was specifically to satisfy some government requirement but don't use me as a reference here. I don't think it could do os/2 "Presentation Manager" for instance. And there was a reason that cygwin was still a thing. I used it for an actual production project maybe 22 years ago. Wow, you've never seen slow until you run cygwin bash scripts on windows 2000. Regardless, it didn't come free - there's people up in Redmond who had that as part (or maybe all) of their job. I would have done that - maintain an esoteric part of Windows for a Microsoft salary? That's the kind of job where you have almost no boss. Sign me up. They had a bunch of weird projects like that. IE for Unix which ran on Solaris and HPUX (evolt has them: https://browsers.evolt.org/browsers/archive/ie https://browsers.evolt.org/browsers/archive/ie you can probably QEMU that if you want). They also had Alpha, MIPS and I believe PPC versions of windows. There were a lot of other things that never got done. Like Windows for Intergraph Clipper, a fact that someone somewhere has decided to vouch for me on 12 years ago over yonder: https://www.cpushack.com/2011/01/16/cpu-of-the-week-intergraph-clipper-c4-mcm/ https://www.cpushack.com/2011/01/16/cpu-of-the-week-intergra... Again, all this shit I know? totally useless.

rlkf 4y ago
> I don't think it could do os/2 "Presentation Manager" for instance. There was a Presentation Manager subsystem for NT that could run 16-bit OS/2 graphical programs, but it was about as hard to come by as buying a single LTSC license is today.
- stuaxo 4y ago
  Would love to see that demonstrated, maybe it will be on virtuallyfun.com one day.
- kristopolous 4y ago
  That's absurd. It's almost as silly as Quarterdeck's DESQview/X product that ran win-16 binaries. I ran it for laughs once in 2001, it worked. Motif, X, remote X, and 16 bit Windows --- it's everything you never wanted. http://toastytech.com/guis/dvx.html http://toastytech.com/guis/dvx.html of course has a gallery. Quarterdeck - thanks for the memories, and also, the memories The lesson of DESQ is to design software to run on the computers of tomorrow and don't worry so much about the computers of today. That sounds stupid to me as well but neither of us have yachts or private jets so what do we know. It's about colonizing the future. I wouldn't be surprised if FreeDOS could spin this up.
  - stuaxo 4y ago
    Virtuallyfun has a go at running DesqView/X... and now I'm shocked to see it was all the way back in 2011 ! https://virtuallyfun.com/2011/03/27/desqviewx/ https://virtuallyfun.com/2011/03/27/desqviewx/ There's also a long running ticket in dosemu2 around some issues with DesqView/X https://github.com/dosemu2/dosemu2/issues/606 https://github.com/dosemu2/dosemu2/issues/606 In some more years it will probably be working fine there.
    - LeFantome 4y ago
      2011? Try 1992! DesqView/X was graphically multi-tasking DOS programs and running X applications the year after Linux was released. This was the Windows 3.1 era ( no cooperative multitasking ) and before OS/2 2.0 was out. Amazing. Like everything else at the time though, it could not run Windows applications ( Microsoft Office ) and so it was doomed.

rlkf 4y ago

> I don't think it could do os/2 "Presentation Manager" for instance. There was a Presentation Manager subsystem for NT that could run 16-bit OS/2 graphical programs, but it was about as hard to come by as buying a single LTSC license is today.

stuaxo 4y ago
Would love to see that demonstrated, maybe it will be on virtuallyfun.com one day.
kristopolous 4y ago
That's absurd. It's almost as silly as Quarterdeck's DESQview/X product that ran win-16 binaries. I ran it for laughs once in 2001, it worked. Motif, X, remote X, and 16 bit Windows --- it's everything you never wanted. http://toastytech.com/guis/dvx.html http://toastytech.com/guis/dvx.html of course has a gallery. Quarterdeck - thanks for the memories, and also, the memories The lesson of DESQ is to design software to run on the computers of tomorrow and don't worry so much about the computers of today. That sounds stupid to me as well but neither of us have yachts or private jets so what do we know. It's about colonizing the future. I wouldn't be surprised if FreeDOS could spin this up.
- stuaxo 4y ago
  Virtuallyfun has a go at running DesqView/X... and now I'm shocked to see it was all the way back in 2011 ! https://virtuallyfun.com/2011/03/27/desqviewx/ https://virtuallyfun.com/2011/03/27/desqviewx/ There's also a long running ticket in dosemu2 around some issues with DesqView/X https://github.com/dosemu2/dosemu2/issues/606 https://github.com/dosemu2/dosemu2/issues/606 In some more years it will probably be working fine there.
  - LeFantome 4y ago
    2011? Try 1992! DesqView/X was graphically multi-tasking DOS programs and running X applications the year after Linux was released. This was the Windows 3.1 era ( no cooperative multitasking ) and before OS/2 2.0 was out. Amazing. Like everything else at the time though, it could not run Windows applications ( Microsoft Office ) and so it was doomed.