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"that much power" is pretty subjective, is it 2x or 10x a pi? Might be a turnoff for some.

manmal 4y ago
The N100 has a TDP of 6W. I haven't measured power draw of the whole system yet though, I imagine that the mainboard will pull another couple watts at least. It shines especially in scenarios where the Pi is just a tad too slow. E.g. you can't live transcode 4k videos on a Pi, while the N100 has latest UHD graphics and therefore ships with a decent HW-accelerated H265 en/decoder.
- nottorp 4y ago
  There are a lot of low power media boxes but few servers sadly. By server i mean multiple network ports and storage ports, space in the case for several spinny discs in addition to the ssds etc. I doubt any NUC is good for a server by my definition.
  - gh02t 4y ago
    Sure there are, there are lots of NAS appliances boxes from the likes of Synology/QNAP/Aliexpress Special that can run double duty as servers built on similar low power CPUs. Some of them even have decent networking options. The problem is that a lot of the commercial products are woefully underspecc'ed for the price and you outgrow them quickly. Spinning disks also eat a lot of power, relatively speaking, so they kind of eat into the "low power" usecase.
    - nottorp 4y ago
      > lots of NAS appliances boxes Rather roll my own Linux thank you. > Some of them even have decent networking options. I think few of them have multiple ethernet ports. Plus there's the matter of how much cpu the built in ethernet eats.
      - manmal 4y ago
        > Rather roll my own Linux thank you. Most modern NAS have that option. It just doesn’t make that much sense since that would get rid of the (in some cases really good) DSM.
        nottorp 4y ago
        It does if you want more than a storage appliance. I want the option of setting up any linux server software on it if i feel the need. Just a general purpose low power computer.
      - gh02t 4y ago
        You should actually look at what's available. You can get a QNAP box with an ARM CPU with lots of drive slots, dual 2.5 gig Ethernet and dual 10 gig SFP+ for like $700, among many more examples. Sure saturating those is gonna eat a ton of cycles and run like shit but... yeah of course it is it's a cheap low power CPU. They suck for the sorts of stuff I wanna do, but this is inherently a market segment that involves compromise and that is probably perfect for some people. I agree I'd much rather roll my own system (and that's what I did) and I would personally never buy one of those, but it's simply not right to say there are no options available if you want a low power server off the shelf. Some of them are even decent if you wanna pay for it.
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  - vamega 4y ago
    Have you seen the board talked about on this thread? https://forums.servethehome.com/index.php?threads/topton-nas-motherboard.37979/ https://forums.servethehome.com/index.php?threads/topton-nas... There is a newer board with a J6413/6412 that could also be a candidate if don’t need quite as much processing power. Reports are that servers with this run under 10W at idle.
    - nottorp 4y ago
      Hmm I don't think I dare. But thanks.

The N100 has a TDP of 6W. I haven't measured power draw of the whole system yet though, I imagine that the mainboard will pull another couple watts at least. It shines especially in scenarios where the Pi is just a tad too slow. E.g. you can't live transcode 4k videos on a Pi, while the N100 has latest UHD graphics and therefore ships with a decent HW-accelerated H265 en/decoder.

nottorp 4y ago
There are a lot of low power media boxes but few servers sadly. By server i mean multiple network ports and storage ports, space in the case for several spinny discs in addition to the ssds etc. I doubt any NUC is good for a server by my definition.
- gh02t 4y ago
  Sure there are, there are lots of NAS appliances boxes from the likes of Synology/QNAP/Aliexpress Special that can run double duty as servers built on similar low power CPUs. Some of them even have decent networking options. The problem is that a lot of the commercial products are woefully underspecc'ed for the price and you outgrow them quickly. Spinning disks also eat a lot of power, relatively speaking, so they kind of eat into the "low power" usecase.
  - nottorp 4y ago
    > lots of NAS appliances boxes Rather roll my own Linux thank you. > Some of them even have decent networking options. I think few of them have multiple ethernet ports. Plus there's the matter of how much cpu the built in ethernet eats.
    - manmal 4y ago
      > Rather roll my own Linux thank you. Most modern NAS have that option. It just doesn’t make that much sense since that would get rid of the (in some cases really good) DSM.
      - nottorp 4y ago
        It does if you want more than a storage appliance. I want the option of setting up any linux server software on it if i feel the need. Just a general purpose low power computer.
    - gh02t 4y ago
      You should actually look at what's available. You can get a QNAP box with an ARM CPU with lots of drive slots, dual 2.5 gig Ethernet and dual 10 gig SFP+ for like $700, among many more examples. Sure saturating those is gonna eat a ton of cycles and run like shit but... yeah of course it is it's a cheap low power CPU. They suck for the sorts of stuff I wanna do, but this is inherently a market segment that involves compromise and that is probably perfect for some people. I agree I'd much rather roll my own system (and that's what I did) and I would personally never buy one of those, but it's simply not right to say there are no options available if you want a low power server off the shelf. Some of them are even decent if you wanna pay for it.
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- vamega 4y ago
  Have you seen the board talked about on this thread? https://forums.servethehome.com/index.php?threads/topton-nas-motherboard.37979/ https://forums.servethehome.com/index.php?threads/topton-nas... There is a newer board with a J6413/6412 that could also be a candidate if don’t need quite as much processing power. Reports are that servers with this run under 10W at idle.
  - nottorp 4y ago
    Hmm I don't think I dare. But thanks.