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Funny how you claim to support GDPR but your own site displays a non-compliant cookie banner.

samtho 3y ago
Their cookie banner is provided by a 3rd party and I can’t see how it is non-compliant unless there is something I’m missing.
- capableweb 3y ago
  Because it's a 3rd party, it cannot be non-compliant? Seems like it's 1 extra click to disallow compared to allow, so yeah, non-compliant. Should be exactly as easy to say yes as saying no. In this case it's not.
  - tiki_ory 3y ago
    Hey. Ory PM here. Thanks for the info. We fixed the Cookie Banner now. So one click Deny is now possible.
  - pestaa 3y ago
    Overblown criticism like this give GDPR an undeserved bad rep.
    - illiarian 3y ago
      It's not overblown criticism. They advertise their product as GDPR-compliant, and yet their website uses dark patterns to trick people into allowing tracking, and is not GDPR-compliant. Do I trust them to be as diligent in their product? And yeah, what gives GDPR bad rep is exactly these kinds of dark patterns and other forms of malicious compliance by non-caring companies.
    - smolder 3y ago
      Incorrect implementations give GDPR a bad reputation, though there are worse ones.
    - capableweb 3y ago
      Either we have regulation and call people out when they don't follow it and hopefully eventually fine them, or we can just skip it all together.
  - samtho 3y ago
    > Because it's a 3rd party, it cannot be non-compliant? Not at all. My point was that they are not offering that as product.
- illiarian 3y ago
  It's their choice to chose that banner, and their choice to configure it this way. Most third-party banners are non-compliant, including this one. Which they should know, given that they advertise GDPR compliance for their main product. The banner should have a Reject All option, preferably as default action. Also relevant: https://noyb.eu/en/where-did-all-reject-buttons-come https://noyb.eu/en/where-did-all-reject-buttons-come

Their cookie banner is provided by a 3rd party and I can’t see how it is non-compliant unless there is something I’m missing.

capableweb 3y ago
Because it's a 3rd party, it cannot be non-compliant? Seems like it's 1 extra click to disallow compared to allow, so yeah, non-compliant. Should be exactly as easy to say yes as saying no. In this case it's not.
- tiki_ory 3y ago
  Hey. Ory PM here. Thanks for the info. We fixed the Cookie Banner now. So one click Deny is now possible.
- pestaa 3y ago
  Overblown criticism like this give GDPR an undeserved bad rep.
  - illiarian 3y ago
    It's not overblown criticism. They advertise their product as GDPR-compliant, and yet their website uses dark patterns to trick people into allowing tracking, and is not GDPR-compliant. Do I trust them to be as diligent in their product? And yeah, what gives GDPR bad rep is exactly these kinds of dark patterns and other forms of malicious compliance by non-caring companies.
  - smolder 3y ago
    Incorrect implementations give GDPR a bad reputation, though there are worse ones.
  - capableweb 3y ago
    Either we have regulation and call people out when they don't follow it and hopefully eventually fine them, or we can just skip it all together.
- samtho 3y ago
  > Because it's a 3rd party, it cannot be non-compliant? Not at all. My point was that they are not offering that as product.
illiarian 3y ago
It's their choice to chose that banner, and their choice to configure it this way. Most third-party banners are non-compliant, including this one. Which they should know, given that they advertise GDPR compliance for their main product. The banner should have a Reject All option, preferably as default action. Also relevant: https://noyb.eu/en/where-did-all-reject-buttons-come https://noyb.eu/en/where-did-all-reject-buttons-come