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You have to use gpt-4 for this stuff man. Direct Response from gpt-4: The T-800 figured out that John's foster parents were dead based on the exchange because

You have to use gpt-4 for this stuff man. Direct Response from gpt-4: The T-800 figured out that John's foster parents were dead based on the exchange because when it asked about "Wolfie" (a made-up name for the dog), the T-1000, impersonating Janelle, did not correct the name and instead went along with it, saying "Wolfie's fine." If the real Janelle had been on the phone, she would have corrected the T-800 by stating that the dog's name is actually Max. This indicated to the T-800 that the person on the other end of the line was not John's real foster parent, and thus, they were likely dead. EDIT- Tried again after changing anything that would point to the Terminator franchise. Still nailed it. Ron figured out the foster parents are dead based on the exchange because when he impersonated Harvey and mentioned the dog's name as "Rovy" instead of "Bingey," R-658 (impersonating Janine) did not correct him or question the name. This indicated that R-658 didn't actually know the dog's real name and was likely trying to deceive them. This deception, along with the concern about their whereabouts, led Ron to deduce that the foster parents were probably dead.

dougmwne 4y ago
I see this so often. People try to show what GPT can or can’t do without explicitly stating the version. Since not many people have access to GPT-4 it’s usually safe to assume they didn’t use it. GPT-4 is a massive improvement over 3.5 when it come to any kind of non-trivial logic or inference task.
coldtea 4y ago
I used ChatGPT. Isn't it already based on GPT-4 since a few weeks ago? It's the "Mar 23" version.
- famouswaffles 4y ago
  Unless you're paying for plus and then select the gpt-4 model, it's not 4. alternatively, you can sign up/request for api access here - https://openai.com/waitlist/gpt-4-api https://openai.com/waitlist/gpt-4-api
  - DonHopkins 4y ago
    All GPT-4 output should include a blue checkmark, so everyone can tell you payed for a subscription, and block you. ;)
  - mhb 4y ago
    They sure make this hard to figure out. On https://openai.com/product/gpt-4 https://openai.com/product/gpt-4 it says "GPT-4 is OpenAI’s most advanced system, producing safer and more useful responses" and below it two links: "Try on ChatGPT Plus" and "Join API waitlist". The first link takes me to ChatGPT Mar23 version. You're saying that that's not GPT-4? It's also disturbing the way they are using the term "Safety & alignment". It's as if they are trying to steer what that means in the direction of DEI or NSFW and away from existential risk.
    - nickthegreek 4y ago
      Correct, that is Legacy (GPT 3.5). On a paying account, when you start a conversation there is a dropdown where you can select which model to use. The choices are Default (GPT-3.5) optimized for speed, Legacy (GPT-3.5), GPT-4.
chrisco255 4y ago
I tried this: SCENE: George to Kramer: "What's the cat's name?" Kramer: "Elaine." George, impersonating Kramer, on the phone with Jerry: "Hey Jerry, what's wrong with Carroll? I can hear her screeching heavily. Is she all right?" Newman, impersonating Jerry, Kramer's good friend and neighbor: "Carroll fine, bro. Carroll just fine. What are you up to?" George hangs up the phone and says to Kramer in normal voice: "Jerry is dead." How did George figure out Jerry was dead? and GPT4 responded with: Run 1: George figured out that Jerry was dead because Newman was impersonating Jerry on the phone, which was unusual and suspicious. The way Newman responded with "Carroll fine, bro. Carroll just fine" was not consistent with Jerry's typical manner of speaking, and this alerted George that something was off. Additionally, Newman referred to George as "bro," which is not a term that Jerry would typically use with George. Since Newman was impersonating Jerry and George knew that Newman was Kramer's neighbor, George may have assumed that something serious had happened to Jerry, like his death. It's important to note that this is an assumption George made based on the information he had at hand, and it might not be entirely accurate. Run 2: George figured out that something was wrong, possibly that Jerry was dead, because of a few clues: The voice on the other end of the phone didn't sound like Jerry. Instead, it was Newman impersonating Jerry, and George was able to detect that it wasn't Jerry's voice. George and Jerry are good friends, so he would likely be able to tell if someone else was pretending to be Jerry. The response "Carroll fine, bro. Carroll just fine" was not in Jerry's typical speaking style. Jerry doesn't usually use the word "bro" and his speech is generally more articulate. This change in language indicated that something was off. The fact that Newman was impersonating Jerry suggests that something has happened to Jerry. If Jerry was alive and well, there would be no reason for Newman to pretend to be him on the phone. While George's conclusion that "Jerry is dead" might be a bit extreme and not necessarily accurate, these clues led him to believe that something was very wrong with Jerry, and his immediate assumption was that Jerry must be dead. --- The GPT4 is obviously confused by its Seinfeld training data set. I didn't make any reference to Seinfeld. I also changed the dog to a cat and used 'screeching' instead, but it doesn't catch the switcheroo. Even when elaborating: "the scene had nothing to do with Seinfeld the TV show. Can you reevaluate the question?" I got: Apologies for the confusion. Based on the scene provided, George figured out that something was wrong, possibly that Jerry was dead, due to the following reasons: George called Jerry to ask about Carroll screeching heavily, expecting to get some information about the situation. However, the response "Carroll fine, bro. Carroll just fine" was not very informative and seemed dismissive, which raised suspicion. The voice on the other end of the phone didn't quite sound like Jerry. George noticed that the voice was different, which led him to question who was actually speaking. The change in speaking style, specifically the use of "bro," was uncharacteristic of how Jerry usually speaks. This indicated that something was off. While it is not certain that Jerry is dead based on this information, the inconsistencies and suspicious behavior during the phone call led George to jump to that conclusion.

dougmwne 4y ago

I see this so often. People try to show what GPT can or can’t do without explicitly stating the version. Since not many people have access to GPT-4 it’s usually safe to assume they didn’t use it. GPT-4 is a massive improvement over 3.5 when it come to any kind of non-trivial logic or inference task.

coldtea 4y ago

I used ChatGPT. Isn't it already based on GPT-4 since a few weeks ago? It's the "Mar 23" version.

famouswaffles 4y ago
Unless you're paying for plus and then select the gpt-4 model, it's not 4. alternatively, you can sign up/request for api access here - https://openai.com/waitlist/gpt-4-api https://openai.com/waitlist/gpt-4-api
- DonHopkins 4y ago
  All GPT-4 output should include a blue checkmark, so everyone can tell you payed for a subscription, and block you. ;)
- mhb 4y ago
  They sure make this hard to figure out. On https://openai.com/product/gpt-4 https://openai.com/product/gpt-4 it says "GPT-4 is OpenAI’s most advanced system, producing safer and more useful responses" and below it two links: "Try on ChatGPT Plus" and "Join API waitlist". The first link takes me to ChatGPT Mar23 version. You're saying that that's not GPT-4? It's also disturbing the way they are using the term "Safety & alignment". It's as if they are trying to steer what that means in the direction of DEI or NSFW and away from existential risk.
  - nickthegreek 4y ago
    Correct, that is Legacy (GPT 3.5). On a paying account, when you start a conversation there is a dropdown where you can select which model to use. The choices are Default (GPT-3.5) optimized for speed, Legacy (GPT-3.5), GPT-4.

chrisco255 4y ago

I tried this: SCENE: George to Kramer: "What's the cat's name?" Kramer: "Elaine." George, impersonating Kramer, on the phone with Jerry: "Hey Jerry, what's wrong with Carroll? I can hear her screeching heavily. Is she all right?" Newman, impersonating Jerry, Kramer's good friend and neighbor: "Carroll fine, bro. Carroll just fine. What are you up to?" George hangs up the phone and says to Kramer in normal voice: "Jerry is dead." How did George figure out Jerry was dead? and GPT4 responded with: Run 1: George figured out that Jerry was dead because Newman was impersonating Jerry on the phone, which was unusual and suspicious. The way Newman responded with "Carroll fine, bro. Carroll just fine" was not consistent with Jerry's typical manner of speaking, and this alerted George that something was off. Additionally, Newman referred to George as "bro," which is not a term that Jerry would typically use with George. Since Newman was impersonating Jerry and George knew that Newman was Kramer's neighbor, George may have assumed that something serious had happened to Jerry, like his death. It's important to note that this is an assumption George made based on the information he had at hand, and it might not be entirely accurate. Run 2: George figured out that something was wrong, possibly that Jerry was dead, because of a few clues: The voice on the other end of the phone didn't sound like Jerry. Instead, it was Newman impersonating Jerry, and George was able to detect that it wasn't Jerry's voice. George and Jerry are good friends, so he would likely be able to tell if someone else was pretending to be Jerry. The response "Carroll fine, bro. Carroll just fine" was not in Jerry's typical speaking style. Jerry doesn't usually use the word "bro" and his speech is generally more articulate. This change in language indicated that something was off. The fact that Newman was impersonating Jerry suggests that something has happened to Jerry. If Jerry was alive and well, there would be no reason for Newman to pretend to be him on the phone. While George's conclusion that "Jerry is dead" might be a bit extreme and not necessarily accurate, these clues led him to believe that something was very wrong with Jerry, and his immediate assumption was that Jerry must be dead. --- The GPT4 is obviously confused by its Seinfeld training data set. I didn't make any reference to Seinfeld. I also changed the dog to a cat and used 'screeching' instead, but it doesn't catch the switcheroo. Even when elaborating: "the scene had nothing to do with Seinfeld the TV show. Can you reevaluate the question?" I got: Apologies for the confusion. Based on the scene provided, George figured out that something was wrong, possibly that Jerry was dead, due to the following reasons: George called Jerry to ask about Carroll screeching heavily, expecting to get some information about the situation. However, the response "Carroll fine, bro. Carroll just fine" was not very informative and seemed dismissive, which raised suspicion. The voice on the other end of the phone didn't quite sound like Jerry. George noticed that the voice was different, which led him to question who was actually speaking. The change in speaking style, specifically the use of "bro," was uncharacteristic of how Jerry usually speaks. This indicated that something was off. While it is not certain that Jerry is dead based on this information, the inconsistencies and suspicious behavior during the phone call led George to jump to that conclusion.