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I suspect the issue is less of a general attitude and more of a combo of poor resources and poverty. Tons of hospitals in India are spanking clean - though thes

I suspect the issue is less of a general attitude and more of a combo of poor resources and poverty. Tons of hospitals in India are spanking clean - though these are often the private ones.

felixg3 4y ago
Yeah. And so much staff… I am from Germany where I have the fancy private health insurance and I spent 5 days in a hospital in Bangalore. I think on my fancy-pants hospital wards were 10 nurses on staff per shift for roughly 20 patients, plus support personnel. The quality was very good. I think it comes down to the availability of a skilled workforce for relatively cheap salaries, while in Germany the salaries are higher, staff is incredibly less in headcounts.
esperent 4y ago
No, it's a cultural thing. For sure it came from poverty. But it persists in places where that's no longer an excuse. For example my neighborhood in Vietnam has kerbside trash/recycling collection four days a week. Even if you couldn't pay you could easily put your bags with someone else's. Hell I'd pay for the entire street gladly. And yet several of my neighbors still pile up their trash and burn it. I've ended up shouting at them a few times - unfortunately being polite does nothing in this culture, while getting angry, as a foreigner, is extremely effective no matter how much I dislike doing it. I know people would say "adapt to the place you're in". But I draw the line in a few places. Burning trash and mistreatment of dogs are what push me past that line and turn me into a shouting maniac. > Tons of hospitals in India are spanking clean Private hospitals. Lots of commercial places are kept spanking clean. It's weird though, it rarely extends to the neighborhood. I'll never stop finding it weird to see a stylish hotel with manicured grounds next door to a literal dumping ground that they don't seem bothered by.

I suspect the issue is less of a general attitude and more of a combo of poor resources and poverty. Tons of hospitals in India are spanking clean - though these are often the private ones.

felixg3 4y ago

Yeah. And so much staff… I am from Germany where I have the fancy private health insurance and I spent 5 days in a hospital in Bangalore. I think on my fancy-pants hospital wards were 10 nurses on staff per shift for roughly 20 patients, plus support personnel. The quality was very good. I think it comes down to the availability of a skilled workforce for relatively cheap salaries, while in Germany the salaries are higher, staff is incredibly less in headcounts.

esperent 4y ago

No, it's a cultural thing. For sure it came from poverty. But it persists in places where that's no longer an excuse. For example my neighborhood in Vietnam has kerbside trash/recycling collection four days a week. Even if you couldn't pay you could easily put your bags with someone else's. Hell I'd pay for the entire street gladly. And yet several of my neighbors still pile up their trash and burn it. I've ended up shouting at them a few times - unfortunately being polite does nothing in this culture, while getting angry, as a foreigner, is extremely effective no matter how much I dislike doing it. I know people would say "adapt to the place you're in". But I draw the line in a few places. Burning trash and mistreatment of dogs are what push me past that line and turn me into a shouting maniac. > Tons of hospitals in India are spanking clean Private hospitals. Lots of commercial places are kept spanking clean. It's weird though, it rarely extends to the neighborhood. I'll never stop finding it weird to see a stylish hotel with manicured grounds next door to a literal dumping ground that they don't seem bothered by.