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The person I'm directly replying to said the war in Ukraine is causing oil prices to increase. What else would be using major amounts of oil in a war? But lik
by qbasic_forever 3y ago
The person I'm directly replying to said the war in Ukraine is causing oil prices to increase. What else would be using major amounts of oil in a war?
But like I said it's beside the point. The price of oil is effectively set by the production volume of Saudi Arabia. Ukraine does not factor into it at all.
- Retric 3y agoRussia is a major oil exporter ~10 million barrels per day, and they are impacted by the war.
- qbasic_forever 3y agoTheir exports are humming along just fine as they've made new agreements with China and other countries to get out of the petro-dollar hegemony. It's been over a year and the sanctions against Russian oil exports appear to have done nothing.
- politician 3y agoIf I posted as frequently within the short amount of time as you have on this topic, my account would have been throttled. My account is frequently throttled for posting more than 5-7 times per hour, and yet, your recent history shows a far higher rate of posts in defense of Russia with no evidence of throttling. That's very interesting. I wonder if limits are relaxed above 8k karma.
- qbasic_forever 3y agoI'm an American that's fed up with the continued support of sanctions and this useless war in Ukraine. We have flushed billions of dollars into this conflict and enacted pain on the world for zero gain. It's time for the west to admit failure on this and push Ukraine to bargain for a cease fire, even if it costs them contested territory like Crimea or Donbas. The history of conflict in those regions is quite complicated and zero concern for the US--we have far bigger problems at home to worry about.
- phpnode 3y agoYour biggest adversary, one that's cast a dark shadow over your country and it's allies, one that's consumed trillions of dollars of defence spending over the last 75 years, is now being ground down and exhausted with approximately zero of your countrymen's lives at risk and all for a mere few billion dollars. You're getting a bargain.
- Retric 3y agoThe USSR was a major adversary for roughly 45 years, 1946 to 1991. The US provided them major economic aid in WWII which they leveraged into a massive expansion and had minimal interaction before the war. Russia is a politically distinct fragment of that empire, just like Ukraine.
- selimthegrim 3y agoIndeed “glavniy protivnik/glavniy vrag” is what USSR used to call USA!
- thriftwy 3y agoNope. It wasn't. It was the most likely adversary. Вероятный.
- selimthegrim 3y agoOk “probable adversary” I stand corrected. I thought that one was a joke.
- distances 3y agoThis war is catastrophic to Ukraine, but relatively costs pennies to western countries. They absolutely should continue armaments as long as Ukraine is willing to fight. Not doing so would mean allowing fascism and outright genocide to spread on European soil, and that would have an astronomical cost in the long run. US and EU would be very, very shortsighted with their own interests if they didn't ship everything Ukraine wants.
- FpUser 3y ago>"My account is frequently throttled for posting more than 5-7 times per hour" Same here. Possible answer: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29718710 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29718710
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- glogla 3y agoI also wonder why what is basically Russian propaganda account has no limits and how it got to 8k karma, when it has basically nothing to say. I know there is practice of buying established accounts with bunch of karma / followers to use for both marketing and propaganda purposes so that might be this case.
- qbasic_forever 3y agoRespectfully, you are delusional if you think I've been on HN for years, posting in lots of unrelated threads, etc. to be some apparatus of Russian propaganda. It's time to realize real, normal people are fed up with this useless conflict. That's the takeaway here that you refuse to see.
- glogla 3y agoI know some people want Russia to win, and they are real. They are either ignorant or they are horrible and evil people.
- Animatronio 3y agoYes, people who don't think like you do are horrible human beings.
- baremetal 3y ago"Everyone who disagrees with my point of view must be ignorant or evil" is a terrible argument and only strengthens his point. What a juvenile and reductive way to view people and relationships. Have you ever self-reflected and considered maybe you might be wrong about anything, ever? Have you ever extended any generosity of argument? How about people are genuinely tired of the bs.
- glogla 3y agoWe are talking about genocidal war where the first thing the occupiers establish in occupied territories are torture rooms. Just last week, Russian soldiers admited on camera they had orders to murder children and went along with it. What kind of self reflection would make people who are ok with that not complete filth I wonder?
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- AlecSchueler 3y agoBut the price of oil and gas is still up in Europe.
- ta1243 3y agoIn the UK I was filling up the other day and reflecting how I'd being paying the exact same price 10 years ago. My current car costs me 15p/mile to drive. Back in 2000 I remember it was costing me about 13p/mile -- that was in a car with worse mpg, but either way it feels it's never been cheaper to drive in the UK. In 2004 it was 80p a litre, or £1.57 in today's money [1]. I filled up for well under £1.49 - I don't recall exactly. In 2008 petrol peaked at £1.20 or £2.05 in today's money, about the same peak as last year's £1.90 a litre. In real terms petrol today is well below 2018 levels [0] https://www.racfoundation.org/data/uk-pump-prices-over-time https://www.racfoundation.org/data/uk-pump-prices-over-time [1] https://www.in2013dollars.com/uk/inflation/2004?amount=80 https://www.in2013dollars.com/uk/inflation/2004?amount=80
- hardware2win 3y agoI'd argue that there is shitton of logistics around war which requires a lot of transportation