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> windmill = molino I don't know Spanish, but "molino" looks like French "moulin", which is a mill; a windmill is "moulin a vent". So I reckon "very different

> windmill = molino I don't know Spanish, but "molino" looks like French "moulin", which is a mill; a windmill is "moulin a vent". So I reckon "very different" is an exaggeration.

roveo 4y ago
I imagine this word should be of Indoeuropean origin, Eastern Slav words for a mill also contain m-l-n (e.g. melnitsa). Modern English lost the "n" part, but it was present in Middle English, milne.
- ivanhoe 4y ago
  yes, it's "mlin" or "mlyn" in a number of Slavic languages, and I just looked up it's etymology in Serbian and the book says it comes from old slavic "mъlinъ" which they say comes from the Latin root "molinum"
ivanhoe 4y ago
and Italian "il mulino"... it all comes from Latin "molinum" for the mill (and "mola" for the grind stone used in mills)
- yobbo 4y ago
  The name of Thor's hammer "mjolnir" (as english speakers would see it) did not come through latin though, so the version of the word in germanic languages was inherited independently. "Mjolnir" means something like "crusher" and the noun "mjol" (flour) means "having been ground up". For example, it can be combined as vetemjöl (wheat flour) or stenmjöl (ground stone or stone powder).
  - denton-scratch 4y ago
    > the noun "mjol" (flour) means "having been ground up" Ah - "mjol" as flour must be cognate with "meal". I hadn't previously associated meal with mills, but it makes sense.
    - hnbad 4y ago
      As another data point: meal/flour is "Mehl" in German. Mehl/meal is milled in a Mühle/mill.
      - Ichthypresbyter 4y ago
        Flour was originally only the highest quality grade- the "flower"- of ground grain.
    - vidarh 4y ago
      Meal appears to be a cognate of Old Norse "mál" ("mål", "måltid" - meal, meal time - in modern Norwegian) rather than mjol. Compare also Mehl (flour) vs Mahl (meal) in German.
      - yobbo 4y ago
        Both meanings exist in English - "stonemeal" or "oatmeal" for example.
pezezin 4y ago
Yes, "molino" is just mill. Windmill would be "molino de viento" and watermill "molino de agua".
NeoTar 4y ago
An in German - Mühle... in fact the English Mill is pretty close too!
stratosgear 4y ago
And in Greek: μύλος. With latin characters: milos. So it seems the root of the word is the same...

> windmill = molino I don't know Spanish, but "molino" looks like French "moulin", which is a mill; a windmill is "moulin a vent". So I reckon "very different" is an exaggeration.

roveo 4y ago

I imagine this word should be of Indoeuropean origin, Eastern Slav words for a mill also contain m-l-n (e.g. melnitsa). Modern English lost the "n" part, but it was present in Middle English, milne.

ivanhoe 4y ago
yes, it's "mlin" or "mlyn" in a number of Slavic languages, and I just looked up it's etymology in Serbian and the book says it comes from old slavic "mъlinъ" which they say comes from the Latin root "molinum"

ivanhoe 4y ago

and Italian "il mulino"... it all comes from Latin "molinum" for the mill (and "mola" for the grind stone used in mills)

yobbo 4y ago
The name of Thor's hammer "mjolnir" (as english speakers would see it) did not come through latin though, so the version of the word in germanic languages was inherited independently. "Mjolnir" means something like "crusher" and the noun "mjol" (flour) means "having been ground up". For example, it can be combined as vetemjöl (wheat flour) or stenmjöl (ground stone or stone powder).
- denton-scratch 4y ago
  > the noun "mjol" (flour) means "having been ground up" Ah - "mjol" as flour must be cognate with "meal". I hadn't previously associated meal with mills, but it makes sense.
  - hnbad 4y ago
    As another data point: meal/flour is "Mehl" in German. Mehl/meal is milled in a Mühle/mill.
    - Ichthypresbyter 4y ago
      Flour was originally only the highest quality grade- the "flower"- of ground grain.
  - vidarh 4y ago
    Meal appears to be a cognate of Old Norse "mál" ("mål", "måltid" - meal, meal time - in modern Norwegian) rather than mjol. Compare also Mehl (flour) vs Mahl (meal) in German.
    - yobbo 4y ago
      Both meanings exist in English - "stonemeal" or "oatmeal" for example.

pezezin 4y ago

Yes, "molino" is just mill. Windmill would be "molino de viento" and watermill "molino de agua".

NeoTar 4y ago

An in German - Mühle... in fact the English Mill is pretty close too!

stratosgear 4y ago

And in Greek: μύλος. With latin characters: milos. So it seems the root of the word is the same...