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I wish they had gone to trial. Oh well. I know MSNBC is just as partisan but Fox let itself get usurped by Trump and went along with the Big Lie for ratings and

I wish they had gone to trial. Oh well. I know MSNBC is just as partisan but Fox let itself get usurped by Trump and went along with the Big Lie for ratings and money and now they get off with no accountability just a nearly 800M fine. Big whoop. And just goes to show you can disparage democracy and elections and get away with it if you have enough money. I’m rather depressed by the whole thing. I thought their case was very solid. Why settle?

robotresearcher 4y ago
They settle to avoid their people testifying under oath, and to avoid a more expensive judgement against them. They got to see the evidence, and expected to lose.
jackmott 4y ago
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Tagbert 4y ago
While MSNBC is partisan, they are not as committed as Fox to just making up propaganda and running with it. MSNBC is more about what they focus on and how they emphasize issues.
- jerkstate 4y ago
  Didn’t MSNBC lead the Russiagate charge, particularly Rachel Maddow?
  - thunky 4y ago
    The Rachael Maddows and Don Lemons of the world are probably feeling pretty uncomfortable right now. The truth is that none of them, Fox personalities included, are journalists or even "news". They should all stop misleading people and call themselves "entertainment". They way they can say whatever they want.
    - thunky 4y ago
      Downvoted as expected. Maybe I should have said Michael Moore: https://twitter.com/MMFlint/status/63815342950072320?lang=en https://twitter.com/MMFlint/status/63815342950072320?lang=en Context: https://www.nytimes.com/2006/11/02/arts/television/02hack.html https://www.nytimes.com/2006/11/02/arts/television/02hack.ht... Interestingly, Diebold IP and tech was acquired by Dominion: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Premier_Election_Solutions https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Premier_Election_Solutions
      - thunky 4y ago
        ...and Don Lemon has been fired
  - dragonwriter 4y ago
    > Didn’t MSNBC lead the Russiagate charge, particularly Rachel Maddow? You'd think if they had really led it that Trump’s many failed (because it wasn’t defamatory) lawsuits over the story, the dossier, etc., would have included them, but no, just the DNC, Hillary Clinton, the New York Times, the Pullitzer Prize, the Washington Post...
blitzar 4y ago
> I thought their case was very solid. Why settle? I agree, the case was pretty much nailed on. Dominion should have held out for the full 1.6bn and stuck The Murdoch's, Tucker and co on the stand to humiliate themselves.
dragonwriter 4y ago
> I thought their case was very solid. Why settle? Because it was a win, and a sure $787.5M is better than a gamble that the court would find for them on the elements other than falsity (very likely) and find enough more damages than 787.5M to justify the added time and cost (far less certain). And the court had already found for them as a matter of law on falsity, so there was no real moral vindication to be sought at trial.

robotresearcher 4y ago

They settle to avoid their people testifying under oath, and to avoid a more expensive judgement against them. They got to see the evidence, and expected to lose.

jackmott 4y ago

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Tagbert 4y ago

While MSNBC is partisan, they are not as committed as Fox to just making up propaganda and running with it. MSNBC is more about what they focus on and how they emphasize issues.

jerkstate 4y ago
Didn’t MSNBC lead the Russiagate charge, particularly Rachel Maddow?
- thunky 4y ago
  The Rachael Maddows and Don Lemons of the world are probably feeling pretty uncomfortable right now. The truth is that none of them, Fox personalities included, are journalists or even "news". They should all stop misleading people and call themselves "entertainment". They way they can say whatever they want.
  - thunky 4y ago
    Downvoted as expected. Maybe I should have said Michael Moore: https://twitter.com/MMFlint/status/63815342950072320?lang=en https://twitter.com/MMFlint/status/63815342950072320?lang=en Context: https://www.nytimes.com/2006/11/02/arts/television/02hack.html https://www.nytimes.com/2006/11/02/arts/television/02hack.ht... Interestingly, Diebold IP and tech was acquired by Dominion: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Premier_Election_Solutions https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Premier_Election_Solutions
    - thunky 4y ago
      ...and Don Lemon has been fired
- dragonwriter 4y ago
  > Didn’t MSNBC lead the Russiagate charge, particularly Rachel Maddow? You'd think if they had really led it that Trump’s many failed (because it wasn’t defamatory) lawsuits over the story, the dossier, etc., would have included them, but no, just the DNC, Hillary Clinton, the New York Times, the Pullitzer Prize, the Washington Post...

blitzar 4y ago

> I thought their case was very solid. Why settle? I agree, the case was pretty much nailed on. Dominion should have held out for the full 1.6bn and stuck The Murdoch's, Tucker and co on the stand to humiliate themselves.

dragonwriter 4y ago

> I thought their case was very solid. Why settle? Because it was a win, and a sure $787.5M is better than a gamble that the court would find for them on the elements other than falsity (very likely) and find enough more damages than 787.5M to justify the added time and cost (far less certain). And the court had already found for them as a matter of law on falsity, so there was no real moral vindication to be sought at trial.