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Yep - Netflix 4K compression is pretty bad. They put a fair amount of work into specifying content delivery requirements (although they have some weird requirem

by wyager 4y ago

Yep - Netflix 4K compression is pretty bad. They put a fair amount of work into specifying content delivery requirements (although they have some weird requirements like asking for P3 rather than Rec.2020) but then they compress the hell out of everything so it looks bad anyway. Very frustrating to see aggressive banding, block artifacts, etc. It is in many ways a blessing to be completely oblivious to such defects, which most people seem to be. Yet another way in which streaming content providers seem to be incentivizing piracy. You can certainly pirate a full-quality blu-ray copy of a movie.

radicaldreamer 4y ago
Apple TV+ has the best quality/bitrate for 4k, I wish Netflix would up their bitrate a bit as quality seems pretty mediocre. The bigger problem with Netflix 4k though is that the "look" of every show is extremely uniform -- to the point that its almost like the same people made every show! This is suspected to be due to the small set of "approved" equipment Netflix requires the producers/cast/crew to use and standardized post-processing. They should allow more freedom in that respect -- many non-Netflix shows these days have a lot more personality simply because they don't have that muted/desaturated Netflix look.
- sgt 4y ago
  Can confirm. Apple TV+ makes me want to not use Netflix. But of course with everything being spread around, you need all these different types of streaming services. Torrent is sometimes an option.
  - prmoustache 4y ago
    You don't need them per se. You want them all. That is different.
- ksec 4y ago
  No time to look it up right now but iirc Apple TV were using anywhere from 20Mbps to 40Mbps depending on content. That is bitrate anywhere from 2x to 4x of Netflix. No idea why they don’t up the bitrate considering bandwidth is extremely cheap and they do a lot of peering. We have H.266 / VVC that is a lot better at the smaller details. Would love to see it being tested for those who are extremely sensitive to artifacts.

by wyager 4y ago

radicaldreamer 4y ago

Apple TV+ has the best quality/bitrate for 4k, I wish Netflix would up their bitrate a bit as quality seems pretty mediocre. The bigger problem with Netflix 4k though is that the "look" of every show is extremely uniform -- to the point that its almost like the same people made every show! This is suspected to be due to the small set of "approved" equipment Netflix requires the producers/cast/crew to use and standardized post-processing. They should allow more freedom in that respect -- many non-Netflix shows these days have a lot more personality simply because they don't have that muted/desaturated Netflix look.

sgt 4y ago
Can confirm. Apple TV+ makes me want to not use Netflix. But of course with everything being spread around, you need all these different types of streaming services. Torrent is sometimes an option.
- prmoustache 4y ago
  You don't need them per se. You want them all. That is different.
ksec 4y ago
No time to look it up right now but iirc Apple TV were using anywhere from 20Mbps to 40Mbps depending on content. That is bitrate anywhere from 2x to 4x of Netflix. No idea why they don’t up the bitrate considering bandwidth is extremely cheap and they do a lot of peering. We have H.266 / VVC that is a lot better at the smaller details. Would love to see it being tested for those who are extremely sensitive to artifacts.