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For the record, the word "dominion" does not appear anywhere on the live foxnews.com site. https://imgur.com/a/cXcITll https://imgur.com/a/cXcITll How would t

For the record, the word "dominion" does not appear anywhere on the live foxnews.com site. https://imgur.com/a/cXcITll https://imgur.com/a/cXcITll How would the Fox News crowd even become aware of those messages when their information sources don't report them?

frozenport 4y ago
Does their audience even use search?
ajross 4y ago
They won't, but wouldn't anyway. A civil suit can recover damages, it can't make Fox into something other than what it is. But no one who would have been receptive to the truth is watching Fox in the first place. That is, really, the core truth exposed by this suit. Fox is completely captured by its audience. For years we thought it was the other way around.
- ortusdux 4y ago
  A settlement can contain just about anything. For example, it could require Fox to air an MSNBC produced 1 hour primetime special about the whole affair.
  - ajross 4y ago
    Contracts can constrain or direct speech in specific ways. So sure, you could put that one special in a settlement. There are severe first amendment problems when you try to do something more vague, like "You have to report on unflattering stories about Fox itself", which I took to be the upthread point.
  - dragonwriter 4y ago
    Yes, but why would Fox “settle” for something harmful to their business that Dominion could not, in the worst case, win in court? A settlement might contain something that wouldn’t be on the table in a court judgement if the value it adds to the side that gets it is disproportional to the cost to the side providing it — so that it is win-win compared to a compromise within the scope of potential court outcomes — but this is the opposite, less valuable to Dominion and more harmful to Fox than money.
alphabet9000 4y ago
it's on the frontpage of the foxnews.com site as of a few minutes ago, https://i.jollo.org/J7bF2Ayr.png https://i.jollo.org/J7bF2Ayr.png
- soupfordummies 4y ago
  https://www.linkpicture.com/q/fox-04182023-2120.png https://www.linkpicture.com/q/fox-04182023-2120.png Now, not a single mention on the entire front page as of a few minutes ago. But they're sure hammering the hell out of this Bud Light story still. EDIT: Is Jollo your site? I dig it!
Kranar 4y ago
It's on their front page: https://www.foxnews.com/media/fox-news-media-dominion-voting-systems-reach-agreement-over-defamation-lawsuit https://www.foxnews.com/media/fox-news-media-dominion-voting...
- RC_ITR 4y ago
  It's so weird to see the Fox News bubble (As someone who never visits the site) isn't just ideological, but also topic specific. For example, they are highlighting Aaron Carter and two Florida men who shot children in a road rage incident. No comment on the content, just weird to see 'some else's algorithm' beyond the obvious political stuff - I'm vaguely aware of both stories, but have not seen extensive coverage in my bubble.
  - soupfordummies 4y ago
    Yeah I visit it daily along with other news sites. To me the worst thing is more WHAT they choose to report/not report than it is anything else. Often times there will be a big news story that every other site is reporting on and then the top few stories on Fox News will be some "Guess what gaffe Biden or Harris did now" type tabloid-style hit pieces.
- ineedasername 4y ago
  I think the GP comment meant the messages entered into evidence in the lawsuit that showed internal Fox communication basically admitting the Dominion claims some of their on-air personalities were making were at best unverified and at worse outright knowingly false. I don't see any Fox News reporting that quotes those messages that were entered into evidence. Though admittedly I didn't spend much time looking-- just the first 3 pages of results in a search.
- soupfordummies 4y ago
  I just scrolled all the way to the bottom to load the full page and Ctrl+F "dominion" returned 0 results. 9PM EDT
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frozenport 4y ago

Does their audience even use search?

ajross 4y ago

They won't, but wouldn't anyway. A civil suit can recover damages, it can't make Fox into something other than what it is. But no one who would have been receptive to the truth is watching Fox in the first place. That is, really, the core truth exposed by this suit. Fox is completely captured by its audience. For years we thought it was the other way around.

ortusdux 4y ago
A settlement can contain just about anything. For example, it could require Fox to air an MSNBC produced 1 hour primetime special about the whole affair.
- ajross 4y ago
  Contracts can constrain or direct speech in specific ways. So sure, you could put that one special in a settlement. There are severe first amendment problems when you try to do something more vague, like "You have to report on unflattering stories about Fox itself", which I took to be the upthread point.
- dragonwriter 4y ago
  Yes, but why would Fox “settle” for something harmful to their business that Dominion could not, in the worst case, win in court? A settlement might contain something that wouldn’t be on the table in a court judgement if the value it adds to the side that gets it is disproportional to the cost to the side providing it — so that it is win-win compared to a compromise within the scope of potential court outcomes — but this is the opposite, less valuable to Dominion and more harmful to Fox than money.

alphabet9000 4y ago

it's on the frontpage of the foxnews.com site as of a few minutes ago, https://i.jollo.org/J7bF2Ayr.png https://i.jollo.org/J7bF2Ayr.png

soupfordummies 4y ago
https://www.linkpicture.com/q/fox-04182023-2120.png https://www.linkpicture.com/q/fox-04182023-2120.png Now, not a single mention on the entire front page as of a few minutes ago. But they're sure hammering the hell out of this Bud Light story still. EDIT: Is Jollo your site? I dig it!

Kranar 4y ago

It's on their front page: https://www.foxnews.com/media/fox-news-media-dominion-voting-systems-reach-agreement-over-defamation-lawsuit https://www.foxnews.com/media/fox-news-media-dominion-voting...

RC_ITR 4y ago
It's so weird to see the Fox News bubble (As someone who never visits the site) isn't just ideological, but also topic specific. For example, they are highlighting Aaron Carter and two Florida men who shot children in a road rage incident. No comment on the content, just weird to see 'some else's algorithm' beyond the obvious political stuff - I'm vaguely aware of both stories, but have not seen extensive coverage in my bubble.
- soupfordummies 4y ago
  Yeah I visit it daily along with other news sites. To me the worst thing is more WHAT they choose to report/not report than it is anything else. Often times there will be a big news story that every other site is reporting on and then the top few stories on Fox News will be some "Guess what gaffe Biden or Harris did now" type tabloid-style hit pieces.
ineedasername 4y ago
I think the GP comment meant the messages entered into evidence in the lawsuit that showed internal Fox communication basically admitting the Dominion claims some of their on-air personalities were making were at best unverified and at worse outright knowingly false. I don't see any Fox News reporting that quotes those messages that were entered into evidence. Though admittedly I didn't spend much time looking-- just the first 3 pages of results in a search.
soupfordummies 4y ago
I just scrolled all the way to the bottom to load the full page and Ctrl+F "dominion" returned 0 results. 9PM EDT
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