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I don't understand what is the problem. I installed Ubuntu multiple times just to uninstall Gnome and install KDE as a first step after install. Never bothered

I don't understand what is the problem. I installed Ubuntu multiple times just to uninstall Gnome and install KDE as a first step after install. Never bothered to actually try KUbuntu. Is this method of installing KDE still supported, or they are dropping support for KDE completely.

kijin 15y ago
They're just making Kubuntu more like Xubuntu, Lubuntu, Edubuntu, etc. All those other derivatives have been doing OK without official support.
- sho_hn 15y ago
  Add to that that Jonathan Riddell (the sole Kubuntu developer Canonical was funding, which they now cancelled, which is what this announcement is about) had been off the Kubuntu rotation for about one release cycle in the recent past already, working on Bzr instead. The Kubuntu folks still managed to make their release just fine.
adimitrov 15y ago
They will probably not drop the KDE packages (that'd be idiotic, tons of people use, say Amarok or Kopete or whatnot) — but it won't be the streamlined experience that Unity is or Gnome was, Ubuntu icons everywhere and whatnot. It'll just be closer, or even identical to upstream KDE (or rather, Debian's version of upstream KDE) with few modifications on Canonical's side.
- Karunamon 15y ago
  Canonical is not a stranger to idiotic business decisions.(See also Unity and their subsequent losing of ground to Mint) That, combined with their utter inability to take community feedback into account, really makes me wonder whenever they do something like this. It's like traditional logic doesn't apply.
  - reuser 15y ago
    I'm not angry that Canonical has not dedicated a staff member to Lubuntu or Xubuntu, why should I rage over Canonical not having a staff member dedicated to Kubuntu? The community is doing a fine job. I have no problem with Unity and if I did, I have no problem installing Xfce either.
  - davidw 15y ago
    > Canonical is not a stranger to idiotic business decisions. Do they even make money? They provide a bunch of free stuff, so I'm not sure how the recoup it.
    - Scaevolus 15y ago
      They sell support contracts.
      - davidw 15y ago
        My impression, with no basis in actual facts, is that they spend more than they take in. How many zillions of users do they have, and how many of those actually need support from Canonical, especially when they can get varying degrees of support from anyone with Linux knowledge.
        cookiecaper 15y ago
        Ubuntu Server is becoming more and more popular. While the Red Hat "wait five years between releases" model works for some applications, it is actually not very good for people developing new web-based programs. There is a lot of appreciation for a server-style OS that updates more frequently (semi-annually in Ubuntu's case), and Ubuntu offers contracts (supposedly) comparable to what you would get with RHEL so you can still keep the CYA business guys happy (and get support, I guess, if you need it).
- bad_user 15y ago
  it won't be the streamlined experience that Unity is or Gnome was For some reason I find the experience more streamlined on Xubuntu than on Ubuntu 11.10

kijin 15y ago

They're just making Kubuntu more like Xubuntu, Lubuntu, Edubuntu, etc. All those other derivatives have been doing OK without official support.

sho_hn 15y ago
Add to that that Jonathan Riddell (the sole Kubuntu developer Canonical was funding, which they now cancelled, which is what this announcement is about) had been off the Kubuntu rotation for about one release cycle in the recent past already, working on Bzr instead. The Kubuntu folks still managed to make their release just fine.

adimitrov 15y ago

They will probably not drop the KDE packages (that'd be idiotic, tons of people use, say Amarok or Kopete or whatnot) — but it won't be the streamlined experience that Unity is or Gnome was, Ubuntu icons everywhere and whatnot. It'll just be closer, or even identical to upstream KDE (or rather, Debian's version of upstream KDE) with few modifications on Canonical's side.

Karunamon 15y ago
Canonical is not a stranger to idiotic business decisions.(See also Unity and their subsequent losing of ground to Mint) That, combined with their utter inability to take community feedback into account, really makes me wonder whenever they do something like this. It's like traditional logic doesn't apply.
- reuser 15y ago
  I'm not angry that Canonical has not dedicated a staff member to Lubuntu or Xubuntu, why should I rage over Canonical not having a staff member dedicated to Kubuntu? The community is doing a fine job. I have no problem with Unity and if I did, I have no problem installing Xfce either.
- davidw 15y ago
  > Canonical is not a stranger to idiotic business decisions. Do they even make money? They provide a bunch of free stuff, so I'm not sure how the recoup it.
  - Scaevolus 15y ago
    They sell support contracts.
    - davidw 15y ago
      My impression, with no basis in actual facts, is that they spend more than they take in. How many zillions of users do they have, and how many of those actually need support from Canonical, especially when they can get varying degrees of support from anyone with Linux knowledge.
      - cookiecaper 15y ago
        Ubuntu Server is becoming more and more popular. While the Red Hat "wait five years between releases" model works for some applications, it is actually not very good for people developing new web-based programs. There is a lot of appreciation for a server-style OS that updates more frequently (semi-annually in Ubuntu's case), and Ubuntu offers contracts (supposedly) comparable to what you would get with RHEL so you can still keep the CYA business guys happy (and get support, I guess, if you need it).
bad_user 15y ago
it won't be the streamlined experience that Unity is or Gnome was For some reason I find the experience more streamlined on Xubuntu than on Ubuntu 11.10