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You should've learned having taste is an instant disqualifier for employment at Microsoft after Windows 8.

by causi 4y ago

loloquwowndueo 4y ago
Ah i can see you never used windows 3.1.
- JohnFen 4y ago
  Win 3.1 wasn't much uglier than Win 8, but it was a million times more usable.
  - CRConrad 3y ago
    Win 3.1 was arguably less ugly than Win 8.
- Loughla 4y ago
  Honestly, with new resolutions, 3.1 may be exactly the look I want. Everything was grouped logically, and you had control over your OS.
StrangeATractor 4y ago
Nobody with taste would have allowed the Zune.
- Minor49er 4y ago
  The Zune HD was a fantastic device. I still use mine from time to time
  - causi 4y ago
    The Zune HD UX is godawful. Not only do you have to both press a button and interact with the touchscreen to play/pause, skip, or adjust volume, but the relevant button is on the opposite end of the device from the headphone jack. That means it's sitting upside down in your pocket and you have to reach into your pocket and past the bulk of the device just to adjust the volume. The original Zune UX was a work of art by comparison. The buttons were on the face and recessed, so not only did they not get pressed accidentally, you could control your media right through the outside of your pants without even reaching into your pocket.
- causi 4y ago
  Hey now, the Zune Windows XP theme was pretty snazzy.
- blcArmadillo 4y ago
  The browser on the Zune wasn't good but I otherwise liked. What didn't you like about it?
- BrotherBisquick 4y ago
  This is the first time I've heard all opinion about the Zune other than "it was actually pretty good! It was a hidden gem!"
  - booleandilemma 4y ago
    I had a Zune back in the day and I loved it. It had FM radio! And I was able to write software for it!
mattferderer 4y ago
Windows 8 & Windows phone had a lot of good things going for it that would eventually get no resources & thrown out. They also had many design ideas borrowed by iOS & Android.
- dmonitor 4y ago
  I’m glad Windows ate shit trying to get into mobile. Maybe it was functional, but Windows is fucking ugly compared to iOS, MacOS, and even Android.
- causi 4y ago
  They also had many design ideas borrowed by iOS & Android. Yeah, because it was a gods-be-damned mobile experience in a desktop operating system.
2OEH8eoCRo0 4y ago
I think they have excellent taste but money has the highest priority.
Dah00n 4y ago
Surely you must mean after Windows 7? Windows 8 was the beginning of the pile of poo that is Windows on the PC-playing-a-tablet and Microsoft just dig deeper and deeper with every new version down the awful tablet design they have going on.
- ThatMedicIsASpy 4y ago
  I actually liked parts of it (W8) on my tablets. I chose windows tablets exactly because I know I get updates for years (except now with the TPM requirement for W11). I still use a Yoga 2 8" tablet (9yrs old) every day in bed. Even though I run Linux on everything else I haven't tried and or messed with it on a tablet. I do not consider my Steam Deck as a tablet - I do use it a lot as one but 99% of the time I enjoy the controller input over touch. I just can't find a replacement for my Yoga 2 8". The front facing speakers are amazing and every new version of this tablet runs android which is an auto skip for me.
  - alisonatwork 4y ago
    I, too, loved Windows 8 and the small Windows tablets from that era. There are dozens of us! It was so cool to have such a tiny device that worked fine as a tablet, then be able to plug a mouse and keyboard and play games on Steam or write music in Ableton or code in the same IDE you'd use at work. Windows 10 was a step backwards in presenting a modern and touch-friendly UI to the user, and Windows 11 is even worse with all the screen real estate wastage from floating menus and rounded corners, plus the useless "recommended" section, ads and widgets. Since the manufacturers all gave up on the 8" Windows tablet form factor, I think the only path forward is larger but skinnier tablets. Same trend as phones, alas. For a while my main computer was a 10" Lenovo, but now I've bitten the bullet and moved to a 13" Surface Pro. It's a great piece of kit performance-wise and reasonably tough (my screen is smashed up from backpacking/camping, still works) but it still feels less "cool" and cyberpunky than those cheap and cheerful tablets with a full OS on them used to be.

You should've learned having taste is an instant disqualifier for employment at Microsoft after Windows 8.

by causi 4y ago

You should've learned having taste is an instant disqualifier for employment at Microsoft after Windows 8.

loloquwowndueo 4y ago

Ah i can see you never used windows 3.1.

JohnFen 4y ago
Win 3.1 wasn't much uglier than Win 8, but it was a million times more usable.
- CRConrad 3y ago
  Win 3.1 was arguably less ugly than Win 8.
Loughla 4y ago
Honestly, with new resolutions, 3.1 may be exactly the look I want. Everything was grouped logically, and you had control over your OS.

StrangeATractor 4y ago

Nobody with taste would have allowed the Zune.

Minor49er 4y ago
The Zune HD was a fantastic device. I still use mine from time to time
- causi 4y ago
  The Zune HD UX is godawful. Not only do you have to both press a button and interact with the touchscreen to play/pause, skip, or adjust volume, but the relevant button is on the opposite end of the device from the headphone jack. That means it's sitting upside down in your pocket and you have to reach into your pocket and past the bulk of the device just to adjust the volume. The original Zune UX was a work of art by comparison. The buttons were on the face and recessed, so not only did they not get pressed accidentally, you could control your media right through the outside of your pants without even reaching into your pocket.
causi 4y ago
Hey now, the Zune Windows XP theme was pretty snazzy.
blcArmadillo 4y ago
The browser on the Zune wasn't good but I otherwise liked. What didn't you like about it?
BrotherBisquick 4y ago
This is the first time I've heard all opinion about the Zune other than "it was actually pretty good! It was a hidden gem!"
- booleandilemma 4y ago
  I had a Zune back in the day and I loved it. It had FM radio! And I was able to write software for it!

mattferderer 4y ago

Windows 8 & Windows phone had a lot of good things going for it that would eventually get no resources & thrown out. They also had many design ideas borrowed by iOS & Android.

dmonitor 4y ago
I’m glad Windows ate shit trying to get into mobile. Maybe it was functional, but Windows is fucking ugly compared to iOS, MacOS, and even Android.
causi 4y ago
They also had many design ideas borrowed by iOS & Android. Yeah, because it was a gods-be-damned mobile experience in a desktop operating system.

2OEH8eoCRo0 4y ago

I think they have excellent taste but money has the highest priority.

Dah00n 4y ago

Surely you must mean after Windows 7? Windows 8 was the beginning of the pile of poo that is Windows on the PC-playing-a-tablet and Microsoft just dig deeper and deeper with every new version down the awful tablet design they have going on.

ThatMedicIsASpy 4y ago
I actually liked parts of it (W8) on my tablets. I chose windows tablets exactly because I know I get updates for years (except now with the TPM requirement for W11). I still use a Yoga 2 8" tablet (9yrs old) every day in bed. Even though I run Linux on everything else I haven't tried and or messed with it on a tablet. I do not consider my Steam Deck as a tablet - I do use it a lot as one but 99% of the time I enjoy the controller input over touch. I just can't find a replacement for my Yoga 2 8". The front facing speakers are amazing and every new version of this tablet runs android which is an auto skip for me.
- alisonatwork 4y ago
  I, too, loved Windows 8 and the small Windows tablets from that era. There are dozens of us! It was so cool to have such a tiny device that worked fine as a tablet, then be able to plug a mouse and keyboard and play games on Steam or write music in Ableton or code in the same IDE you'd use at work. Windows 10 was a step backwards in presenting a modern and touch-friendly UI to the user, and Windows 11 is even worse with all the screen real estate wastage from floating menus and rounded corners, plus the useless "recommended" section, ads and widgets. Since the manufacturers all gave up on the 8" Windows tablet form factor, I think the only path forward is larger but skinnier tablets. Same trend as phones, alas. For a while my main computer was a 10" Lenovo, but now I've bitten the bullet and moved to a 13" Surface Pro. It's a great piece of kit performance-wise and reasonably tough (my screen is smashed up from backpacking/camping, still works) but it still feels less "cool" and cyberpunky than those cheap and cheerful tablets with a full OS on them used to be.