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These show up again & again in the openwrt 22.03.4 submission, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35611662 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35611662 It's

These show up again & again in the openwrt 22.03.4 submission, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35611662 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35611662 It's sad to me that PCE hasn't upgraded to newer chips & it's sad to see even barebones Ryzen embedded boards costing so damned much. What a great space for computing, and it's so unfortunate that there's such a vast rift between rpi and low end industrial-embedded.

transpute 4y ago
APU2 was best in class. They did try to find a modern SoC. End of an era. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35619349 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35619349
- rektide 4y ago
  I do think the team kind of gave up too though. The design support ask is complicated, and definitely AMD is not the company it used to be in this regard, but I genuinely don't think these very heavily integrated SoC should have a bunch of hands-on support from AMD to make them go. Reciprocally, my god, there have been such shit Ryzen embedded offerings. The cost is astronomical. The flight upmarket is just so notable. I want to hope there are some decent low-end available x86 CPUs still about, it's just that no one is interested in trying to play a margins game & the market expects everyone to pay industrial-computing prices, is under-utilizing AMD's offerings, but I genuinely don't know. AMD better have some solid sub $50 chips. Sell some cut down dual core x86 with some PCIe damn you. Do something. Please. It sucks so much that there's just nothing else to even lean on. Nothing else other than x86 has decent IO subsystems, with a fair mix of USB/PCIe/ethernet. ARM and RISC-V have some slowly upmarket march from the bottom but none of these have anywhere near the flexibility, capability, or use of even this decade old GX-412C.
  - transpute 4y ago
    Possible replacements for APU2: - 700 euro OPNsense Ryzen Embedded fanless router - 700 usd Protectli Intel vPro fanless router - used HP T740 thin client with Ryzen Embedded & PCIe slot + Intel quad port NIC - used Lenovo 1L micro-PC with PCIe slot + Intel quad port NIC
    - mappu 4y ago
      There's some interesting Jasper Lake boards and prebuilts on Aliexpress - circa 150USD gets you a fanless N5105 with 4x 2.5 GBe ports.

transpute 4y ago

APU2 was best in class. They did try to find a modern SoC. End of an era. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35619349 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35619349

rektide 4y ago
I do think the team kind of gave up too though. The design support ask is complicated, and definitely AMD is not the company it used to be in this regard, but I genuinely don't think these very heavily integrated SoC should have a bunch of hands-on support from AMD to make them go. Reciprocally, my god, there have been such shit Ryzen embedded offerings. The cost is astronomical. The flight upmarket is just so notable. I want to hope there are some decent low-end available x86 CPUs still about, it's just that no one is interested in trying to play a margins game & the market expects everyone to pay industrial-computing prices, is under-utilizing AMD's offerings, but I genuinely don't know. AMD better have some solid sub $50 chips. Sell some cut down dual core x86 with some PCIe damn you. Do something. Please. It sucks so much that there's just nothing else to even lean on. Nothing else other than x86 has decent IO subsystems, with a fair mix of USB/PCIe/ethernet. ARM and RISC-V have some slowly upmarket march from the bottom but none of these have anywhere near the flexibility, capability, or use of even this decade old GX-412C.
- transpute 4y ago
  Possible replacements for APU2: - 700 euro OPNsense Ryzen Embedded fanless router - 700 usd Protectli Intel vPro fanless router - used HP T740 thin client with Ryzen Embedded & PCIe slot + Intel quad port NIC - used Lenovo 1L micro-PC with PCIe slot + Intel quad port NIC
  - mappu 4y ago
    There's some interesting Jasper Lake boards and prebuilts on Aliexpress - circa 150USD gets you a fanless N5105 with 4x 2.5 GBe ports.