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> 5.) Many States Aren’t Safe — For So Many Reasons > I’m not talking about crime, don’t be ridiculous. I am talking about states that have criminalized or sig

> 5.) Many States Aren’t Safe — For So Many Reasons > I’m not talking about crime, don’t be ridiculous. I am talking about states that have criminalized or significantly curtailed gender-affirming care and body autonomy. This is an interesting question, but you're not going to get the answer from a terminally-online culture-war-addled substacker who thinks that gender-affirming care has a bigger impact on where "marginalized people" choose to live than crime. Worrying about crime is "ridiculous?" For marginalized people -- who are the principal victims of crime, who bear the brunt of criminality in the United States, who express in poll after poll that it's of primary concern to them? No, surely it is a lack of access to gender-affirming care that's motivating the black exodus from North St. Louis. This is simply not serious.

kjkjadksj 3y ago
Crime is measured on the orders of magnitude of small tens to few hundreds per hundreds of thousands of people or so. On the otherhand, these laws affect these groups 100% of the time so long as they remain in these states where its clear their representatives don’t care about their concerns.
- dionidium 3y ago
  Crime at the societal level is measured at those rates because most places have no murders for decades, whereas the most dangerous neighborhoods — basically all full of “marginalized people” — have staggering rates of violent crime. Violent crime affects 100% of the residents of North St. Louis, I assure you, and is constantly front of mind. And there are far more poor African Americans living in high-crime neighborhoods than there are people worried about gender-affirming care. Frankly, it’s not even close and it’s a sign of something very goofy and broken that this is even a question. And crucially, even if this weren’t true, it’s no justification for pooh-poohing concerns about crime. It’s evidence we’re dealing with a culture-war-poisoned weirdo who believes concern about crime is some kind of fake right-wing issue, when poll after poll show that it is a primary concern of marginalized people living in high-crime cities. It doesn’t mean those other things aren’t important; it just means that this was written by somebody who doesn’t understand the relative prevalence/importance of these issues within literally orders of magnitude. So how could they possibly make reasonable inferences about the causes of related social issues?

kjkjadksj 3y ago

Crime is measured on the orders of magnitude of small tens to few hundreds per hundreds of thousands of people or so. On the otherhand, these laws affect these groups 100% of the time so long as they remain in these states where its clear their representatives don’t care about their concerns.

dionidium 3y ago
Crime at the societal level is measured at those rates because most places have no murders for decades, whereas the most dangerous neighborhoods — basically all full of “marginalized people” — have staggering rates of violent crime. Violent crime affects 100% of the residents of North St. Louis, I assure you, and is constantly front of mind. And there are far more poor African Americans living in high-crime neighborhoods than there are people worried about gender-affirming care. Frankly, it’s not even close and it’s a sign of something very goofy and broken that this is even a question. And crucially, even if this weren’t true, it’s no justification for pooh-poohing concerns about crime. It’s evidence we’re dealing with a culture-war-poisoned weirdo who believes concern about crime is some kind of fake right-wing issue, when poll after poll show that it is a primary concern of marginalized people living in high-crime cities. It doesn’t mean those other things aren’t important; it just means that this was written by somebody who doesn’t understand the relative prevalence/importance of these issues within literally orders of magnitude. So how could they possibly make reasonable inferences about the causes of related social issues?