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Or just live in a small town where all of your friends and needs are 5 minutes away. I see no point to overpopulated cities with remote work so prevalent nowad

Or just live in a small town where all of your friends and needs are 5 minutes away. I see no point to overpopulated cities with remote work so prevalent nowadays. Cars aren't the problem, overpopulated cities are. I can walk my town end to end in 15 minutes, there's a coop, grocery store, hospital, entertainment, etc. You can drive to another town if you want, or drive and park anywhere without paying, or walk, or bike. This is common for most small towns that I know of.

packetlost 3y ago
I fail to see how overpopulation is the problem when cities like Tokyo exist.
- MrOwnPut 3y ago
  I fail to see how cars are the problem since cities like Tokyo function with similar road layouts and hardly any pedestrian-only roads. (Source: I'm temporarily living in Tokyo right now) Tokyo is extremely overcrowded, but its services and zoning are somewhat able to handle it, if you're okay with living in a 100sqm box and being squeezed into the train like a sardine and shove through the sidewalks / crossings during rush hour. There's a reason why the Japanese government is always trying to incentivize people to move out to it's rural areas. That being said, American cities cannot even handle a fraction of those population levels. It's not the cars that are the problem, it's the mismanagement of public resources and city planning that leads to lack of GOOD public transportation and zoning. So until those US city leaders can figure out their shit, I'd suggest living in a small town, it has the wishlist everyone is always wanting here. Walkable end-to-end, bikeable, co-ops, fresh air, etc. Luckily we already did the hard work to connect these towns together and we have a LOT of land.
- tropicalbeach 3y ago
  Have you actually been to Tokyo? It's insanely crowded everywhere. Just walking across intersections and navigating train stations is insane. Hotels are the size of your closet and apartments are the size of your closet. Japan has one of the higher depression rates. If anything this proves high density cities are unhealthy.
ausbah 3y ago
Small towns are almost always in rural areas which at least in American means some amount of trouble if you're non religious, non white, or non heterosexual. Problem with cities isn't overpopulation, it's housing. People want to live there but there isn't enough accommodations, and there totally could be if zoning and infrastructure were properly prioritized.
- MrOwnPut 3y ago
  > means some amount of trouble if you're non religious, non white, or non heterosexual. No it doesn't. Stop generalizing and stereotyping. From my experience people in small towns are nicer than people in cities, regardless of race or whatever. The small town I grew up in was 1/3rd hispanic, 1/3rd black, 1/3rd white and everyone got along. Don't believe what the media tries to racebait you with. > Problem with cities isn't overpopulation, it's housing. People want to live there but there isn't enough accommodations, and there totally could be if zoning and infrastructure were properly prioritized. Yes, zoning is somewhat the issue, in the fact that stores and restaurants should be more distributed. But many cities have plenty of apt buildings and short of squeezing people in smaller boxes, there's not much you can do. Also people shouldn't live in small boxes.
  - vineyardmike 3y ago
    Just because you have a good experience, doesn’t mean everyone will. There’s plenty of history in America to defend the assumption that minorities will have a worse experience in rural towns. You seem to live in a very diverse town which is great. That’s not most towns in America. As a counter example, someone has called me a slur in almost every area I’ve spent time in besides big cities. Like driving by me on a sidewalk, in a bar, whatever, it always happens.
    - MrOwnPut 3y ago
      > Just because you have a good experience, doesn’t mean everyone will. So you stereotype, generalize, and assume the worse just in case your pre-judgement is right? > There’s plenty of history in America to defend the assumption that minorities will have a worse experience in rural towns. And what is that? What in "history" specifically makes you think people in rural towns are worse than people in cities? Either way, that's not a good excuse to stereotype people. I don't think every person in the city is a gangster or a mobster because of cities bad history of them. > You seem to live in a very diverse town which is great. That’s not most towns in America. You have no idea what you are talking about, many towns are very diverse. https://theweek.com/articles/692098/rural-america-more-diverse-than-think https://theweek.com/articles/692098/rural-america-more-diver... https://www.ers.usda.gov/webdocs/publications/44331/10597_page7.pdf?v=41055 https://www.ers.usda.gov/webdocs/publications/44331/10597_pa...

packetlost 3y ago

I fail to see how overpopulation is the problem when cities like Tokyo exist.

MrOwnPut 3y ago
I fail to see how cars are the problem since cities like Tokyo function with similar road layouts and hardly any pedestrian-only roads. (Source: I'm temporarily living in Tokyo right now) Tokyo is extremely overcrowded, but its services and zoning are somewhat able to handle it, if you're okay with living in a 100sqm box and being squeezed into the train like a sardine and shove through the sidewalks / crossings during rush hour. There's a reason why the Japanese government is always trying to incentivize people to move out to it's rural areas. That being said, American cities cannot even handle a fraction of those population levels. It's not the cars that are the problem, it's the mismanagement of public resources and city planning that leads to lack of GOOD public transportation and zoning. So until those US city leaders can figure out their shit, I'd suggest living in a small town, it has the wishlist everyone is always wanting here. Walkable end-to-end, bikeable, co-ops, fresh air, etc. Luckily we already did the hard work to connect these towns together and we have a LOT of land.
tropicalbeach 3y ago
Have you actually been to Tokyo? It's insanely crowded everywhere. Just walking across intersections and navigating train stations is insane. Hotels are the size of your closet and apartments are the size of your closet. Japan has one of the higher depression rates. If anything this proves high density cities are unhealthy.

ausbah 3y ago

Small towns are almost always in rural areas which at least in American means some amount of trouble if you're non religious, non white, or non heterosexual. Problem with cities isn't overpopulation, it's housing. People want to live there but there isn't enough accommodations, and there totally could be if zoning and infrastructure were properly prioritized.

MrOwnPut 3y ago
> means some amount of trouble if you're non religious, non white, or non heterosexual. No it doesn't. Stop generalizing and stereotyping. From my experience people in small towns are nicer than people in cities, regardless of race or whatever. The small town I grew up in was 1/3rd hispanic, 1/3rd black, 1/3rd white and everyone got along. Don't believe what the media tries to racebait you with. > Problem with cities isn't overpopulation, it's housing. People want to live there but there isn't enough accommodations, and there totally could be if zoning and infrastructure were properly prioritized. Yes, zoning is somewhat the issue, in the fact that stores and restaurants should be more distributed. But many cities have plenty of apt buildings and short of squeezing people in smaller boxes, there's not much you can do. Also people shouldn't live in small boxes.
- vineyardmike 3y ago
  Just because you have a good experience, doesn’t mean everyone will. There’s plenty of history in America to defend the assumption that minorities will have a worse experience in rural towns. You seem to live in a very diverse town which is great. That’s not most towns in America. As a counter example, someone has called me a slur in almost every area I’ve spent time in besides big cities. Like driving by me on a sidewalk, in a bar, whatever, it always happens.
  - MrOwnPut 3y ago
    > Just because you have a good experience, doesn’t mean everyone will. So you stereotype, generalize, and assume the worse just in case your pre-judgement is right? > There’s plenty of history in America to defend the assumption that minorities will have a worse experience in rural towns. And what is that? What in "history" specifically makes you think people in rural towns are worse than people in cities? Either way, that's not a good excuse to stereotype people. I don't think every person in the city is a gangster or a mobster because of cities bad history of them. > You seem to live in a very diverse town which is great. That’s not most towns in America. You have no idea what you are talking about, many towns are very diverse. https://theweek.com/articles/692098/rural-america-more-diverse-than-think https://theweek.com/articles/692098/rural-america-more-diver... https://www.ers.usda.gov/webdocs/publications/44331/10597_page7.pdf?v=41055 https://www.ers.usda.gov/webdocs/publications/44331/10597_pa...