> but without the density to support usable public transportation (once-an-hour buses don't count), it's really not a city Transportation is for rural areas. I

> but without the density to support usable public transportation (once-an-hour buses don't count), it's really not a city Transportation is for rural areas. If there is support for transporting people around beyond the capacity of their legs, I'm not sure that is really a city either. The hallmark of a city is the density for having everything you need to live out life right there, never, ever, needing to step into some kind of vehicle. Density but scattering life around over tens of miles or more, requiring travel to live out life, is just rural with nearby neighbours.