Thank you. Every time the roundabout discussion comes up here on HN I get dismissed when I tell people that, as a cyclist and pedestrian who does not own a car,

Thank you. Every time the roundabout discussion comes up here on HN I get dismissed when I tell people that, as a cyclist and pedestrian who does not own a car, I do everything in my power to avoid roundabouts. Please just let me cross at a junction where I can see that all cross traffic has come to a complete stop, and can make full eye contact with the drivers whose lanes I am crossing (implying nothing less than a full 90 degree intersection).