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I don't disagree with any of that, but if a project is started in response to something, and then you use their very name for a thing they launched, while not h

I don't disagree with any of that, but if a project is started in response to something, and then you use their very name for a thing they launched, while not having anything to do with that thing, then that's a bit misleading for the users. For example, if I don't like what Microsoft is doing with Windows and I name my own OS WindowsPro while it being a Linux distribution, I'm clearly trying to mislead people into believing it's something it's not.

manyoso 4y ago
The front page was changed to state this is not affiliated with other popular internet based gpt's in first few sentences. I get why people are cynical but the project really is trying to do the right thing.
- capableweb 4y ago
  As long as the project is actively trying to mislead people with a incorrect project name, I don't see it as them doing the right thing.
  - ipaddr 4y ago
    OpenAI mislead people. Where do you draw the line?
    - wongarsu 4y ago
      OpenAI is on the wrong side of that line. That doesn't mean this project has to also do that.
      - manyoso 4y ago
        People affiliated with openai have privately stated they are appreciative of this project.
    - capableweb 4y ago
      Yes, OpenAI's name is also misleading. When they moved from doing Open Source, Open research and being non-profit, they should have changed the name as it's no longer accurate.
  - manyoso 4y ago
    But we aren't actively trying that is why the frontpage was updated to respond to exactly this criticism. There is no active deception going on here. You don't like the name, that's fine, but it clearly states it isn't affiliated.
    - capableweb 4y ago
      The website domain is still gpt4all.io, the project is still named "GPT4All Chat" and the GitHub project's title is "gpt4all-chat". Not sure how that is responding to the criticism that the project name is misleading. It's not that I don't like the name, is that it seems you're trying to make people believe the project is something it's not.
- manyoso 4y ago
  Making things clear on the very first page that this is not chatgpt is not "actively trying to mislead people"
  - meh8881 4y ago
    Now serving Coca-Cola!* *(not Coca-Cola)
    - manyoso 4y ago
      Except this isn't coca cola. This is a term of art that is widely used in the industry and a number. OpenAI is welcome to rebrand on something that isn't so generic.
      - meh8881 3y ago
        It widely used in the context of OpenAI’s model specifically. It is also a trademarked term.
- School-Cotton 4y ago
  Doesn’t matter what the front page says, you’re still using the GPT4 name.

manyoso 4y ago

The front page was changed to state this is not affiliated with other popular internet based gpt's in first few sentences. I get why people are cynical but the project really is trying to do the right thing.

capableweb 4y ago
As long as the project is actively trying to mislead people with a incorrect project name, I don't see it as them doing the right thing.
- ipaddr 4y ago
  OpenAI mislead people. Where do you draw the line?
  - wongarsu 4y ago
    OpenAI is on the wrong side of that line. That doesn't mean this project has to also do that.
    - manyoso 4y ago
      People affiliated with openai have privately stated they are appreciative of this project.
  - capableweb 4y ago
    Yes, OpenAI's name is also misleading. When they moved from doing Open Source, Open research and being non-profit, they should have changed the name as it's no longer accurate.
- manyoso 4y ago
  But we aren't actively trying that is why the frontpage was updated to respond to exactly this criticism. There is no active deception going on here. You don't like the name, that's fine, but it clearly states it isn't affiliated.
  - capableweb 4y ago
    The website domain is still gpt4all.io, the project is still named "GPT4All Chat" and the GitHub project's title is "gpt4all-chat". Not sure how that is responding to the criticism that the project name is misleading. It's not that I don't like the name, is that it seems you're trying to make people believe the project is something it's not.
manyoso 4y ago
Making things clear on the very first page that this is not chatgpt is not "actively trying to mislead people"
- meh8881 4y ago
  Now serving Coca-Cola!* *(not Coca-Cola)
  - manyoso 4y ago
    Except this isn't coca cola. This is a term of art that is widely used in the industry and a number. OpenAI is welcome to rebrand on something that isn't so generic.
    - meh8881 3y ago
      It widely used in the context of OpenAI’s model specifically. It is also a trademarked term.
School-Cotton 4y ago
Doesn’t matter what the front page says, you’re still using the GPT4 name.