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In London there's been a big move over the last decade to remove big urban roundabouts for precisely that reason. They make sense for vehicles, but they make mi
by leoedin 4y ago
In London there's been a big move over the last decade to remove big urban roundabouts for precisely that reason. They make sense for vehicles, but they make mixed use areas much more dangerous. Roundabouts are slowly being converted to C shaped junctions with dedicated cycle routes and lanes in both direction. I imagine they're probably a lot less efficient for cars, but they also don't tend to kill people at the same rate.
I still think roundabouts are a great idea for more rural road junctions. They're much safer, and I suspect more efficient, than cross roads controlled by traffic lights. I was driving around Toronto last year and the amount of stopping and starting at traffic lights you have to do is infuriating.
- jozvolskyef 4y agoI wonder if the distance of a pedestrian crossing from the centre of the roundabout relates to pedestrian safety. Subjectively, I feel like safety could be improved by moving the crossings farther from the centre.
- NeoTar 4y agoMaybe I'm misinterpreting, but it's frustrating as a pedestrian if you ever are walking along a road and have to take a walk of even only a few metres in a perpendicular direction to find a crossing, cross, and then walk back to the original road.
- jozvolskyef 4y agoIt could be just five or ten meters in each direction. For example this crossing always felt unsafe to me. The original crossing has been obstructed to prevent crossings and moved about 5 meters out, and it feels much safer now: https://goo.gl/maps/ipe8RXkdSgpZz72r6 https://goo.gl/maps/ipe8RXkdSgpZz72r6
- Ekaros 4y agoI wonder about this specific setup for cyclist. The yield sings when coming in are after the cross walk so here in Finland in those cases the cyclist would need to yield. And even more weirdly as car is turning when going out they would need to yield on that side to cyclists. Is that same or different in Czech.
- jozvolskyef 4y agoIn Czech all traffic must yield when entering a roundabout, including the tram. As far as I can tell the yield signs are there for foreigners might be used to different rules. Regarding your second point, if you mean a car changing lanes from an inner lane to an outer lane, it does need to yield to everyone in that outer lane. This includes yielding to cyclists whose trajectory would intersect with the car. Again, the same applies to all traffic.
- rwmj 4y agoThis does explain why Hangar Lane is no longer "gyratory".
- eru 4y agoPerhaps you need smaller roundabouts, instead of those giant monsters like the Old Street roundabout in London?