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Could you elaborate on the last point?

riffraff 4y ago
Uncle Bob has been widely criticized for his political stances, basically being a MAGA republican. This also spilled into some critiques of Clean Code which are sometimes colored by this.
- rTX5CMRXIfFG 4y ago
  Eh, I don’t even know anything about his politics but I read his Clean Architecture and I saw immediately what a hot pile of garbage it is. The book is full of platitudes, the author is so conceited that he cites his other works to justify his statements, and he’s far more concerned about being immortalized or revered in the industry for his coinages of principles, than by coming up with a mechanistic model of what makes a good computer program and ways of measuring that quality.
  - riffraff 4y ago
    Sure, but being a bad programmer does not make you an "asshole", which is what the original commenter asked about.
- dagw 4y ago
  Uncle Bob has been widely criticized for his political stances, basically being a MAGA republican. I don't think that's a fair representation of his critics. I've been reading (and even occasionally writing) critiques of Uncle Bob for many years, and you are literally the first person I've ever seen even mentioning is political stance. Up until 30 seconds ago I'd not once reflected over who Uncle Bob might vote for.
  - teddyh 4y ago
    All non-political critiques which I have seen (here and elsewhere) always seem to turn out to be based on misunderstandings or exaggerations of what he actually has said or written (sometimes wildly so). Or, as it sometimes turns out, people hate him not for anything he has said, but because of how other people has misunderstood and misinterpreted him. From what I have seen, every time he has been criticized sincerely, and he has become aware of it, he has engaged his critics in open debate, and they have come to amicable results, with him sometimes altering his views.
  - riffraff 4y ago
    But we're those critiques of him being a horrible person? I disagree with some of his technical ideas, but that in itself would not warrant such a characterization.
    - dagw 4y ago
      I have honestly never heard (or made) a critique of him as a person. In fact the little I have heard about him as a person has generally been positive.
      - riffraff 4y ago
        ok but the original comment called him an "asshole", which is about the person, not his technical ideas. I can dig up some instances of people being angry at him, but honestly, it's a 70+ republican, you can easily imagine the situations he gets into.
andyjohnson0 4y ago
Possibly: https://gist.github.com/unclebob/2508746 https://gist.github.com/unclebob/2508746

Uncle Bob has been widely criticized for his political stances, basically being a MAGA republican. This also spilled into some critiques of Clean Code which are sometimes colored by this.

rTX5CMRXIfFG 4y ago
Eh, I don’t even know anything about his politics but I read his Clean Architecture and I saw immediately what a hot pile of garbage it is. The book is full of platitudes, the author is so conceited that he cites his other works to justify his statements, and he’s far more concerned about being immortalized or revered in the industry for his coinages of principles, than by coming up with a mechanistic model of what makes a good computer program and ways of measuring that quality.
- riffraff 4y ago
  Sure, but being a bad programmer does not make you an "asshole", which is what the original commenter asked about.
dagw 4y ago
Uncle Bob has been widely criticized for his political stances, basically being a MAGA republican. I don't think that's a fair representation of his critics. I've been reading (and even occasionally writing) critiques of Uncle Bob for many years, and you are literally the first person I've ever seen even mentioning is political stance. Up until 30 seconds ago I'd not once reflected over who Uncle Bob might vote for.
- teddyh 4y ago
  All non-political critiques which I have seen (here and elsewhere) always seem to turn out to be based on misunderstandings or exaggerations of what he actually has said or written (sometimes wildly so). Or, as it sometimes turns out, people hate him not for anything he has said, but because of how other people has misunderstood and misinterpreted him. From what I have seen, every time he has been criticized sincerely, and he has become aware of it, he has engaged his critics in open debate, and they have come to amicable results, with him sometimes altering his views.
- riffraff 4y ago
  But we're those critiques of him being a horrible person? I disagree with some of his technical ideas, but that in itself would not warrant such a characterization.
  - dagw 4y ago
    I have honestly never heard (or made) a critique of him as a person. In fact the little I have heard about him as a person has generally been positive.
    - riffraff 4y ago
      ok but the original comment called him an "asshole", which is about the person, not his technical ideas. I can dig up some instances of people being angry at him, but honestly, it's a 70+ republican, you can easily imagine the situations he gets into.

andyjohnson0 4y ago

Possibly: https://gist.github.com/unclebob/2508746 https://gist.github.com/unclebob/2508746