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Oh if we're talking the rest of California… it's less of a service outage and more like a mass evacuation (8,000+ families). Then again I'd say regular leaks,

Oh if we're talking the rest of California… it's less of a service outage and more like a mass evacuation (8,000+ families). Then again I'd say regular leaks, fires, and explosions do not a reliable delivery system make. https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2021-09-27/so-cal-gas-settles-over-huge-aliso-canyon-gas-leak https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2021-09-27/so-cal-g...

refurb 4y ago
We’re not talking mass evacuation were talking outage. But anyways, how many people died from the wildfires started by power lines? https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/07/22/pge-power-lines-california-wildfires/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/07/22/pge-power-l...
- emodendroket 4y ago
  If you’re having a mass evacuation you can’t very well use your appliances. What’s the point of this nitpick?
  - refurb 4y ago
    I never brought up mass evacuations? But just pointing out gas and electric both cause them?
    - inferiorhuman 4y ago
      Not to the same degree they don't. Evacuations due to safety issues and service disruptions with gas are common. Evacuations due to safety issues with electrical service are not.
- inferiorhuman 4y ago
  But anyways, how many people died from the wildfires started by power lines? Certainly fewer than succumb to natural gas related causes. Nationwide somewhere around 15 people die annually from pipeline related incidents, over 400 from carbon monoxide poisoning. Safety with electrical stuff marches forward. Fault (ground, arc) interrupters, fused plugs, polarized and grounded receptacles. Safety with gas handling has basically stagnated and we can't even get gas powered appliances to not leak gas. California's got a long history of safety problems with natural gas: https://la.curbed.com/2016/3/8/11181374/gas-leaks-los-angeles-history https://la.curbed.com/2016/3/8/11181374/gas-leaks-los-angele...

refurb 4y ago

We’re not talking mass evacuation were talking outage. But anyways, how many people died from the wildfires started by power lines? https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/07/22/pge-power-lines-california-wildfires/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/07/22/pge-power-l...

emodendroket 4y ago
If you’re having a mass evacuation you can’t very well use your appliances. What’s the point of this nitpick?
- refurb 4y ago
  I never brought up mass evacuations? But just pointing out gas and electric both cause them?
  - inferiorhuman 4y ago
    Not to the same degree they don't. Evacuations due to safety issues and service disruptions with gas are common. Evacuations due to safety issues with electrical service are not.
inferiorhuman 4y ago
But anyways, how many people died from the wildfires started by power lines? Certainly fewer than succumb to natural gas related causes. Nationwide somewhere around 15 people die annually from pipeline related incidents, over 400 from carbon monoxide poisoning. Safety with electrical stuff marches forward. Fault (ground, arc) interrupters, fused plugs, polarized and grounded receptacles. Safety with gas handling has basically stagnated and we can't even get gas powered appliances to not leak gas. California's got a long history of safety problems with natural gas: https://la.curbed.com/2016/3/8/11181374/gas-leaks-los-angeles-history https://la.curbed.com/2016/3/8/11181374/gas-leaks-los-angele...