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> Is it an OS or an advertisement platform. OS for enterprise customers and Windows Pro users who know how to use Group Policy. Advertisement platform for ev

by mdmglr 3y ago

> Is it an OS or an advertisement platform. OS for enterprise customers and Windows Pro users who know how to use Group Policy. Advertisement platform for everyone else. Sad times.

esafak 3y ago
Tell your kids to study hard so they can afford to stay away from it.
midoridensha 3y ago
No, it's good times. Look at MSFT's stock price. Despite the lousy market, they're doing pretty well. You can whine all you want about the user experience being terrible, but that literally doesn't matter. The only thing that matters is how profitable the company is, and the value it provides to shareholders. Nothing else is important. If customers don't like being bombarded by ads in their OS, they're free to choose something else. Alternatives are available, but most users don't want to bother looking.
- deaddodo 3y ago
  > No, it's good times. Look at MSFT's stock price. Despite the lousy market, they're doing pretty well. MSFT is one of my major blue chips. Between Office, Azure and Windows; they always perform pretty well: https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/MSFT/ https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/MSFT/ I’m not expecting any big returns from them, but they certainly beat inflation, when amortized over my investment period. And they don’t seem to be going anywhere soon.
- pineaux 3y ago
  This is a very narrow view of what "good" is. If a company dumps barrels full of toxic DDT in the Pacific Ocean causing widespread pollution, but still make a profit for their shareholders; would you still argue they are a good company? Same for Windows. They are polluting our visual space. These ads are unwanted and not sought out.
  - midoridensha 3y ago
    If some company dumps toxic crap in the ocean, you don't have a choice to just go to an alternate universe where companies don't do that. It's a shared resource. When Microsoft loads their OS with annoying ads, you have a simple choice to use it, or not. You can easily use a different OS if it bothers you so much. I don't see any ads in my OS... >They are polluting our visual space. These ads are unwanted and not sought out. You made a choice to buy an OS that has this pollution. That's on you, not Microsoft. MS offered you a crappy OS with ads in it at a certain (presumably low) price, and you accepted their offer. You could have used a different vendor, a free OS, or even a more-expensive version of Windows that doesn't have the ads. This is nothing like environmental pollution. MS Windows is not a shared resource, it's a product from a private (publicly-held) corporation, offered for sale with the goal of making money for its shareholders.

by mdmglr 3y ago

> Is it an OS or an advertisement platform. OS for enterprise customers and Windows Pro users who know how to use Group Policy. Advertisement platform for everyone else. Sad times.

esafak 3y ago

Tell your kids to study hard so they can afford to stay away from it.

midoridensha 3y ago

No, it's good times. Look at MSFT's stock price. Despite the lousy market, they're doing pretty well. You can whine all you want about the user experience being terrible, but that literally doesn't matter. The only thing that matters is how profitable the company is, and the value it provides to shareholders. Nothing else is important. If customers don't like being bombarded by ads in their OS, they're free to choose something else. Alternatives are available, but most users don't want to bother looking.

deaddodo 3y ago
> No, it's good times. Look at MSFT's stock price. Despite the lousy market, they're doing pretty well. MSFT is one of my major blue chips. Between Office, Azure and Windows; they always perform pretty well: https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/MSFT/ https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/MSFT/ I’m not expecting any big returns from them, but they certainly beat inflation, when amortized over my investment period. And they don’t seem to be going anywhere soon.
pineaux 3y ago
This is a very narrow view of what "good" is. If a company dumps barrels full of toxic DDT in the Pacific Ocean causing widespread pollution, but still make a profit for their shareholders; would you still argue they are a good company? Same for Windows. They are polluting our visual space. These ads are unwanted and not sought out.
- midoridensha 3y ago
  If some company dumps toxic crap in the ocean, you don't have a choice to just go to an alternate universe where companies don't do that. It's a shared resource. When Microsoft loads their OS with annoying ads, you have a simple choice to use it, or not. You can easily use a different OS if it bothers you so much. I don't see any ads in my OS... >They are polluting our visual space. These ads are unwanted and not sought out. You made a choice to buy an OS that has this pollution. That's on you, not Microsoft. MS offered you a crappy OS with ads in it at a certain (presumably low) price, and you accepted their offer. You could have used a different vendor, a free OS, or even a more-expensive version of Windows that doesn't have the ads. This is nothing like environmental pollution. MS Windows is not a shared resource, it's a product from a private (publicly-held) corporation, offered for sale with the goal of making money for its shareholders.