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The sad thing is that you'd think the revenue coming from license sales to OEMs would be enough for Microsoft to not resort to these blatant attempts to make Wi

The sad thing is that you'd think the revenue coming from license sales to OEMs would be enough for Microsoft to not resort to these blatant attempts to make Windows an advertising platform, but I guess it's not.

iJohnDoe 4y ago
Much agreed. It would take a bit more class within Microsoft these days to realize that and maybe they just aren’t ready to take the step in the right direction yet.
nobody9999 4y ago
>The sad thing is that you'd think the revenue coming from license sales to OEMs would be enough for Microsoft to not resort to these blatant attempts to make Windows an advertising platform, but I guess it's not. I'm not defending Microsoft here, but just about everyone else is doing that same thing (and not just tech companies, auto, appliance, consumer electronics manufacturers and many others are doing this), so why wouldn't Microsoft do so as well? Microsoft isn't the problem per se. Rather it's the lack of effective privacy regulations. GDPR (sadly, I'm not in the EU) is a start, but is still far too weak to reverse the perverse incentives that lead to your coffee maker[0][1] spying on you. Yes, that example is (I think) an outlier, but I used it to point up just how widespread this sort of thing is. But we shouldn't let Microsoft off the hook for that reason. We should bash them (and everyone else who does this kind of thing) and do our best to vote with our wallets/feet. Failing that (for whatever reasons), as others have pointed out, Pro/Enterprise versions of Windows allow you to turn this garbage off. [0] https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2022/jun/14/chinese-smart-coffee-machine-threat-data-security/ https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2022/jun/14/chinese-sma... [1] I'd note that the article linked in [0] has some pretty blatant China bashing^W^W jingoistic undertones. That said, concern over this sort of thing out of China is definitely a concern, but less so (at least to me) than the US/Western corporations that are doing at least as much of this disgusting stuff. Edit: Clarified prose.
ezconnect 4y ago
They in it for the profit. They would not shy away from a revenue stream. Users can still clean it up.

iJohnDoe 4y ago

Much agreed. It would take a bit more class within Microsoft these days to realize that and maybe they just aren’t ready to take the step in the right direction yet.

nobody9999 4y ago

>The sad thing is that you'd think the revenue coming from license sales to OEMs would be enough for Microsoft to not resort to these blatant attempts to make Windows an advertising platform, but I guess it's not. I'm not defending Microsoft here, but just about everyone else is doing that same thing (and not just tech companies, auto, appliance, consumer electronics manufacturers and many others are doing this), so why wouldn't Microsoft do so as well? Microsoft isn't the problem per se. Rather it's the lack of effective privacy regulations. GDPR (sadly, I'm not in the EU) is a start, but is still far too weak to reverse the perverse incentives that lead to your coffee maker[0][1] spying on you. Yes, that example is (I think) an outlier, but I used it to point up just how widespread this sort of thing is. But we shouldn't let Microsoft off the hook for that reason. We should bash them (and everyone else who does this kind of thing) and do our best to vote with our wallets/feet. Failing that (for whatever reasons), as others have pointed out, Pro/Enterprise versions of Windows allow you to turn this garbage off. [0] https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2022/jun/14/chinese-smart-coffee-machine-threat-data-security/ https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2022/jun/14/chinese-sma... [1] I'd note that the article linked in [0] has some pretty blatant China bashing^W^W jingoistic undertones. That said, concern over this sort of thing out of China is definitely a concern, but less so (at least to me) than the US/Western corporations that are doing at least as much of this disgusting stuff. Edit: Clarified prose.

ezconnect 4y ago

They in it for the profit. They would not shy away from a revenue stream. Users can still clean it up.