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The number of cybertruck reservations say otherwise. It’s riskier, yes, but might payoff. I wouldn’t buy a normal truck, but a cybertruck is my dream vehicle. I
by slashdev 3y ago
The number of cybertruck reservations say otherwise. It’s riskier, yes, but might payoff. I wouldn’t buy a normal truck, but a cybertruck is my dream vehicle. I’d rather own that than anything else, even if money was no object.
And I’m far from a Tesla fanboy.
- at-fates-hands 3y ago>> I wouldn’t buy a normal truck, but a cybertruck is my dream vehicle. Honest question. What is it that makes it your dream vehicle?
- slashdev 3y agoLarge, extremely safe, no paint to maintain, no body that gets easily dented, impact resistant glass, electric, high performance, long range, great torque and acceleration, can haul stuff, can fit a family, can be used in a pinch for power, and looks awesome. And maybe the self driving stuff will turn out to be useful too. Too soon to say. Electric vehicles are coming much more slowly where I am and they cost 1.5-2x what they do in the US. So I bought a ICE car this year. But I hope one day a cybertruck will be a practical option for me.
- dingosity 3y agoUm... the impact resistant glass was not especially impact resistant at the unveiling, but you just go on believing that it was. Life is too short to get bummed out by consensus reality.
- nashashmi 3y agoAll of those nifty features are replicable by any other manufacturer.
- slashdev 3y agoBut haven’t been.
- Symbiote 3y agoIt's extremely unsafe. The design is illegal in at least the European Union, UK and Australia.
- slashdev 3y agoUnsafe to others, yes. Maybe it makes me a bit of an asshole, but I’m ok with that tradeoff. I’ve never had a collision in my life, but my cars have been hit by others. I’m principally concerned with safety for myself and my family. Concern for others on the road comes a lot further down the list. Sorry. I drive with great care and responsibility, but many others do not. I’m worried about protecting me from them, not the other way around.
- GaryNumanVevo 3y agoYou do realize that the Cybertruck literally has no airbags right?
- slashdev 3y agoI do not realize that, and I question your sources.
- GaryNumanVevo 3y agoTechnically not public info yet, whoops!
- adfgadfhionio 3y agoI do not understand people like you. Everyone does the wrong thing sometimes, but I do not see how you can calmly and knowingly choose to do evil and not even be ashamed of it. How can you be so casual about hurting other people for your own selfish ends? It is completely alien to me.
- slashdev 3y agoLet he with no sin throw the first stone.
- smeyer 3y ago>extremely safe Do you care about the safety of others, or only yourself? You listed safety second in your list of positives, but I'm curious if you're considering things like pedestrian safety or just driver/passenger safety.
- techsupporter 3y ago> I'm curious if you're considering things like pedestrian safety or just driver/passenger safety. I'm sure some people do hold this view, but I've never met someone who's buying a vehicle and looks into how well it deals with people outside of the vehicle as part of safety considerations. While pictures of lifted trucks and high-bumper vehicles are fairly common posts on Twitter, usually for dunks, people still buy SUVs and crossovers that are known to be unsafe to those outside of them. Often this is disguised as "but I need it to go skiing once a year" or "what if I need to drive the entire soccer team home?" The mindset of drivers, and especially Tesla's corporate view of it, channels Lord Farquaad. "Some of you [pedestrians] may die and that's a sacrifice I'm willing to make."
- smeyer 3y agoWe haven't met in person, but hi! Part of why I own a sedan rather than an SUV (although not the only reason) is safety of others. It's also part of why I avoided car ownership for many years! I'd prefer that this safety consideration be handled via regulation, though. I'd love to see cars that recklessly endanger the lives of those outside the car banned, limited, or taxed.
- askvictor 3y agoSafety of others is the domain of the government or regulator. And that, unfortunately, relies on the government being competent, and free from corporate influence. Neither of which are really the case in the US (nor much of the world).
- klyrs 3y agoI've owned cars for almost 30 years and I have never once "maintained" my paint. Where do you live that this is a thing?
- slashdev 3y agoI envy you. My new car is only months old and I’m already having to pay to pop out dents and touch up paint. Careless people parking next to me.
- dingosity 3y agoIt's the other people. It's always the other people.
- klyrs 3y agoI forgot, truck ownership didn't used to overlap with image-consciousness. But we all saw the cannonball demo, didn't we? Do you really think the body is going to be invincible? I, for one, look forward to testing cybertruck body panels when they park too close to me.
- slashdev 3y agoIf you don’t at least touch up the paint it rusts. At least where I live.
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- MH15 3y agoThis kind of attitude is why car culture is killing so many and traffic deaths continue to rise.
- TaylorAlexander 3y agoI understand you are excited about this truck. I just want to highlight that aside from the paint thing most of this applies to a Rivian or a Ford F-150 lightning. I am not really sure the "no body that gets easily dented" is true - time will tell how durable the body is. But I am not arguing with you about your preferences. I am saying that for the broad base of consumers, most of these needs (except no paint) can be met by existing vehicles. The Rivian for example is getting great reviews, and I think it has great looks. And the F-150 is already the highest selling vehicle in the USA, so an electric version will be a good choice for many of those consumers. Tesla coming out with such a unique vehicle means they're really going to have to prove its worth.
- slashdev 3y agoYes, I’d be surprised if it outsells the electric F150. That being said, I would obviously rather have the cybertruck. Time will tell if it was a good business decision or not for Tesla. I think they’ll do alright though, and nothing stops them from bringing out a more traditional truck later as well.
- TaylorAlexander 3y agoNothing stops them from coming out with a more traditional truck later except that it clearly takes them many years to ship a new model, and all the while customers who want a truck now or don't want a cybertruck are going to competitors. Of course at this point they are committed to release. But I agree with others that releasing a more traditional truck would have been more savvy.
- dingosity 3y agoWhy do you think they're committed to a release?
- TaylorAlexander 3y agoI don't know much about their status but other people in this thread suggest their factory is tooled up and they are close to release, so it might be a bad time to cancel everything and go back to the drawing board. Then they would have no truck for another 5 years.
- clouddrover 3y ago> impact resistant glass Don't be suckered by Tesla's advertising drivel, and certainly don't repeat it. Here's the glass of a VW Golf: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWzUh53H_VU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWzUh53H_VU Tesla's dog and pony show is for credulous rubes. You don't need to be one of those.
- slashdev 3y agoUnless I’m mistaken, there’s quite a difference between the cybertruck glass and regular auto glass. It doesn’t exist yet, so it’s possible that could change, but it’s also not marketing drivel.
- clouddrover 3y agoWatch the video. And after that video watch this video: https://youtu.be/8SsnkXH2mQY?t=200 https://youtu.be/8SsnkXH2mQY?t=200 It will help strengthen you against manipulation by advertising.
- gamblor956 3y agoYou're mistaken. Cybertruck glass is just premium auto glass. It would have taken years to certify an entire different kind of glass for automotive purposes.
- slashdev 3y agoIt remains to be seen what it ships with, but you can add films and coatings to the glass to make it much more resistant. I don’t think that would affect certification, although I could be wrong.
- clouddrover 3y agoYou're not wrong, you've been suckered by advertising. Watch the video. The water is there, horse. Drink it.
- adfgadfhionio 3y agoLet me start off by saying that it's silly to discuss the design of a vehicle that does not exist. All anyone has seen so far is a scale model. I'm not sure it's even developed enough to call a concept. We might as well discuss whether it's better to ride a unicorn or a griffon. >Large, extremely safe So engineered to kill everyone except the driver. Big, heavy cars are safe only because they flatten the other party in a crash. The Cybertruck will be even worse than your average murdermobile because, as an EV, it will be unusually heavy. And it gets worse: >no body that gets easily dented Cars don't have squishy bodywork by accident. Flexible, easily-dented bodywork is a safety feature. The front end of a car is designed to crumple to minimize acceleration. Well, everyone knows about crumple zones. Clearly cars need to crumple at highway speeds, but the driver is in no danger in a parking lot. However, it is crucial that this happen even for minor collisions. Any collision with a pedestrian is a minor collision from the perspective of the car but catastrophic from the perspective of the pedestrian. The hood, bumpers, and panels must flex and dent even in a fender bender if they are to protect a pedestrian at 20 miles an hour.
- gamblor956 3y agoThe reason that body panels are dentable is that denting helps absorb impact energy, and replacing a body panel or two is cheaper than totaling the entire car due to a dented frame creating a risk of structural failure. IOW, it's a feature, not a bug. It's also safer for the other party in an accident, since the vehicle(s) will absorb crash energy that would otherwise be transferred to the occupants/pedestrian/cyclist. Given Tesla's abysmal self-driving record (literally, more self-driving accidents, injuries, and/or fatalities than the entire rest of the global automotive industry combined), that's a fundamental consideration. Similarly, most cars have impact-resistant glass, but not shatterproof glass, for safety reasons. There are plenty of times when you want the glass to break.
- asynchronous 3y agoIt’s just cool. Feel like nobody has any creativity or originality in the car market since the 60s and Tesla is the only one driving it.
- dingosity 3y agoGetting the government to subsidize their manufacturing operations is the oldest (and most un-original) move in the auto manufacturing game.
- recursive 3y agoI reserved one because it looks different from anything else.
- karaterobot 3y agoI'm with you that I believe it would sell well if they released it, but I do not accept the number of reservations as being firm proof of that. I don't think it's controversial to say there is a lot of hype around Tesla product announcements, especially that one. Hype can drive reservations without necessarily driving sales. It's something we'd just have to wait and see about.
- rkagerer 3y agoIt might attract a new segment of the market that wouldn't otherwise buy a truck. e.g. My partner, she has no interest in a normal pickup truck, for some reason I still can't fathom wants one in bright orange.
- rsynnott 3y ago... Huh, are they going to come in colours? I vaguely thought, in the event that any ever actually existed, that they'd be unpainted, a la DeLorean.
- rkagerer 3y agoYou're right they're stainless steel. There was some talk of factory wraps but don't think it's happening... would have to be aftermarket.
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- dingosity 3y agoBut... here's the thing... they have to build and deliver the cybertruck before they can recognize the revenue. That's the problem with building tangible assets. If he had only sold an NFT of a cybertruck with a vague promise you might get to exchange the NFT in the future for a physical truck, he would be rolling in the cash. Not to mention... I think cybertruck owners only put down $100 as a deposit. They didn't pay the complete price for it. So Tesla has to actually make trucks before people will pay the majority of the sales price.