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Not existing? They built an entire factory for it in Texas, is in going through crash testing, qualification, and the truck is regularly seen on test runs aroun

Not existing? They built an entire factory for it in Texas, is in going through crash testing, qualification, and the truck is regularly seen on test runs around their offices. This just seems like a lazy hit piece with little actual information even though there is a lot out there if you actually follow the development. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvy19pEVs1M https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvy19pEVs1M

zactato 4y ago
I'm not sure that video is evidence for anything more than a single cybertruck existing.
- bottlepalm 4y ago
  That was in California, plus we know at least one crash tested, and here's one in Texas in a wind tunnel - so at least 3 .. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4lOtH-ao7b8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4lOtH-ao7b8 Seriously you think this is vaporware? They're building an entire factory for something else?
andrewmcwatters 4y ago
It doesn’t matter. You can’t buy it. This is like reading developers say, “We’re almost done!” and you’ve only now pushed to the test environment. No QA, no UAT, nothing. If it’s not in production, it doesn’t exist.
- BitwiseFool 4y ago
  That's our secret, we were working in production the whole time.
- bottlepalm 4y ago
  I see so a vaporware product and a product with immense resources going into it, but not yet released are equal in your eyes. You remind me of the people who laughed about reusable rockets, starlink, private crew, and every tesla model. They laugh right up to the point it is released, and then they move the goal posts to the next product.
  - threeseed 4y ago
    And how about Solar City, Boring Company, Twitter. Musk doesn't exactly have a perfect track record.
    - bottlepalm 4y ago
      I can't hear you over all the things being accomplished https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5QXreqOrTA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5QXreqOrTA
      - chronic74020 4y ago
        [flagged]
      - dingosity 4y ago
        All those poop and doge emojis make a ruckus.
      - xracy 4y ago
        Wow, he did it. First manned flight to space.[1] err. First Private manned flight to space. [2] Err, First completely private crew to go to space... Is that actually something we're considering a first? Can you really tell the difference between a person who works for the gov't and a person who doesn't well enough for that to be meaningful? If you have to explain in the accolade what it means, then it's not much of an accolade. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_human_spaceflights,_1961%E2%80%931970 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_human_spaceflights,_19... [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Private_spaceflight#:~:text=On%20July%2020%2C%202021%2C%20Jeff,with%20only%20private%20citizens%20aboard https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Private_spaceflight#:~:text=On....
        bottlepalm 4y ago
        Who cares about first of anything. It’s all about operationalization. Dragon and Dragon 2 are rediculously successful programs that most people said was not possible. Most notably Boeing which is years behind sending crew to orbit even though receiving billions more from NASA. US astronauts would be depending on Russia right now to get to the ISS if not for SpaceX. Which means in this political climate there’s the good chance the IIS would be dead right now.
asynchronous 4y ago
All the media writes is hit pieces on Tesla. They’re an easy target without a PR department, after all.
- bottlepalm 4y ago
  Very easy clicks, helps 'journalists' get that next promotion while providing zero useful information.
- matthewdgreen 4y ago
  Then they should hire a damn PR department.
crazygringo 4y ago
Going through crash testing? Are you referring to the viral April fools video they released a couple weeks ago showing "crash testing" without any crash? Which was presumably just very slow driving with the video sped up, because they didn't want to damage their prototype? If you were doing real crash testing you wanted to show off, you wouldn't skip the actual crash... It was a joke.
- bottlepalm 4y ago
  Wait you think they brought the vehicle to a crash testing facility, wired it up with sensors, painted all the structural components for identification and then didn't actually crash it? Talk about conspiracy theories, wow. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XnqKm4WJs1o https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XnqKm4WJs1o
  - crazygringo 4y ago
    Of course I do. It's called marketing. It's a relatively cheap commercial to make, and the fact that it went viral proves it was a good use of budget. Setting up fake scenarios is basically every TV commercial ever. That doesn't make them conspiracies. Also it was April 1. It was a joke video, get it?
    - bottlepalm 4y ago
      Tesla doesn't waste their time on crap like that. It's why they barely have anyone working in marketing or PR in the first place. The video was made from actual test footage, super quick, and they kicked it out.
      - crazygringo 4y ago
        ...you think a real crash test would have a bunch of random people behind a window looking shocked like that? There's nothing more staged. Obviously yes this was put out by marketing. And again, you are completely ignoring April fools. The intention is for the viewer to be in on the joke... I mean, it's pretty funny. It's excellent marketing. Just don't confuse it for the real thing.
gamblor956 4y ago
That is...not a great test run. That's the worst turning radius I've seen on a pickup truck that didn't have an RV behind it, amply demonstrated by the test driver backing up when he fails to make a fairly wide u-turn at the far end of the test strip. The Cybertruck appears destined to go down in history as the Google Glass of the automotive world. (Notably, the Glass had the same type of limited tech-centric hype before it launched, and was widely ridiculed by the non-tech community.)
- bottlepalm 4y ago
  We will see. Current strategy is demand is a function of price. Not marketing. They will change price continually to meet the production output of the factory. Between no marketing, no dealers, and making their own batteries - it’s very hard to compete. CyberTruck looks cold, angry, mean - there’s more than enough truck drivers with the matching personality to meet the supply.
  - gamblor956 4y ago
    I agree, CyberTruck has no chance of competing with the Lightning or the Rivian. It's considered a joke by people who actually own trucks, and the very "features" that Elon thinks makes it cool are precisely what make it DOA for people actually looking for an EV pickup. The only type of people who would consider buying a CyberTruck are the ones who also went all in on Google Glass.
    - bottlepalm 4y ago
      So many people who own trucks want one. I know more than a few myself. A million preorders says you're wrong.
senectus1 4y ago
yeah that liquid metal press thing (giga-press) they had built for it is a.effing.mazing...

zactato 4y ago

I'm not sure that video is evidence for anything more than a single cybertruck existing.

bottlepalm 4y ago
That was in California, plus we know at least one crash tested, and here's one in Texas in a wind tunnel - so at least 3 .. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4lOtH-ao7b8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4lOtH-ao7b8 Seriously you think this is vaporware? They're building an entire factory for something else?

andrewmcwatters 4y ago

It doesn’t matter. You can’t buy it. This is like reading developers say, “We’re almost done!” and you’ve only now pushed to the test environment. No QA, no UAT, nothing. If it’s not in production, it doesn’t exist.

BitwiseFool 4y ago
That's our secret, we were working in production the whole time.
bottlepalm 4y ago
I see so a vaporware product and a product with immense resources going into it, but not yet released are equal in your eyes. You remind me of the people who laughed about reusable rockets, starlink, private crew, and every tesla model. They laugh right up to the point it is released, and then they move the goal posts to the next product.
- threeseed 4y ago
  And how about Solar City, Boring Company, Twitter. Musk doesn't exactly have a perfect track record.
  - bottlepalm 4y ago
    I can't hear you over all the things being accomplished https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5QXreqOrTA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5QXreqOrTA
    - chronic74020 4y ago
      [flagged]
    - dingosity 4y ago
      All those poop and doge emojis make a ruckus.
    - xracy 4y ago
      Wow, he did it. First manned flight to space.[1] err. First Private manned flight to space. [2] Err, First completely private crew to go to space... Is that actually something we're considering a first? Can you really tell the difference between a person who works for the gov't and a person who doesn't well enough for that to be meaningful? If you have to explain in the accolade what it means, then it's not much of an accolade. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_human_spaceflights,_1961%E2%80%931970 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_human_spaceflights,_19... [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Private_spaceflight#:~:text=On%20July%2020%2C%202021%2C%20Jeff,with%20only%20private%20citizens%20aboard https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Private_spaceflight#:~:text=On....
      - bottlepalm 4y ago
        Who cares about first of anything. It’s all about operationalization. Dragon and Dragon 2 are rediculously successful programs that most people said was not possible. Most notably Boeing which is years behind sending crew to orbit even though receiving billions more from NASA. US astronauts would be depending on Russia right now to get to the ISS if not for SpaceX. Which means in this political climate there’s the good chance the IIS would be dead right now.

asynchronous 4y ago

All the media writes is hit pieces on Tesla. They’re an easy target without a PR department, after all.

bottlepalm 4y ago
Very easy clicks, helps 'journalists' get that next promotion while providing zero useful information.
matthewdgreen 4y ago
Then they should hire a damn PR department.

crazygringo 4y ago

Going through crash testing? Are you referring to the viral April fools video they released a couple weeks ago showing "crash testing" without any crash? Which was presumably just very slow driving with the video sped up, because they didn't want to damage their prototype? If you were doing real crash testing you wanted to show off, you wouldn't skip the actual crash... It was a joke.

bottlepalm 4y ago
Wait you think they brought the vehicle to a crash testing facility, wired it up with sensors, painted all the structural components for identification and then didn't actually crash it? Talk about conspiracy theories, wow. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XnqKm4WJs1o https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XnqKm4WJs1o
- crazygringo 4y ago
  Of course I do. It's called marketing. It's a relatively cheap commercial to make, and the fact that it went viral proves it was a good use of budget. Setting up fake scenarios is basically every TV commercial ever. That doesn't make them conspiracies. Also it was April 1. It was a joke video, get it?
  - bottlepalm 4y ago
    Tesla doesn't waste their time on crap like that. It's why they barely have anyone working in marketing or PR in the first place. The video was made from actual test footage, super quick, and they kicked it out.
    - crazygringo 4y ago
      ...you think a real crash test would have a bunch of random people behind a window looking shocked like that? There's nothing more staged. Obviously yes this was put out by marketing. And again, you are completely ignoring April fools. The intention is for the viewer to be in on the joke... I mean, it's pretty funny. It's excellent marketing. Just don't confuse it for the real thing.

gamblor956 4y ago

That is...not a great test run. That's the worst turning radius I've seen on a pickup truck that didn't have an RV behind it, amply demonstrated by the test driver backing up when he fails to make a fairly wide u-turn at the far end of the test strip. The Cybertruck appears destined to go down in history as the Google Glass of the automotive world. (Notably, the Glass had the same type of limited tech-centric hype before it launched, and was widely ridiculed by the non-tech community.)

bottlepalm 4y ago
We will see. Current strategy is demand is a function of price. Not marketing. They will change price continually to meet the production output of the factory. Between no marketing, no dealers, and making their own batteries - it’s very hard to compete. CyberTruck looks cold, angry, mean - there’s more than enough truck drivers with the matching personality to meet the supply.
- gamblor956 4y ago
  I agree, CyberTruck has no chance of competing with the Lightning or the Rivian. It's considered a joke by people who actually own trucks, and the very "features" that Elon thinks makes it cool are precisely what make it DOA for people actually looking for an EV pickup. The only type of people who would consider buying a CyberTruck are the ones who also went all in on Google Glass.
  - bottlepalm 4y ago
    So many people who own trucks want one. I know more than a few myself. A million preorders says you're wrong.

senectus1 4y ago

yeah that liquid metal press thing (giga-press) they had built for it is a.effing.mazing...