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Are intelligent people that valuable? There's lots of them at every university working for peanuts. They don't seem to be that valued by society, honestly.

taylorius 4y ago
IQ isn't all that. Mine is 140+ and I'm just a somewhat well paid software engineer. It's TOO abstract a metric in my view - for sure it doesn't always translate into real world success.
- roflyear 4y ago
  Right were very much in the same boat. I'm good at pattern recognition I guess. I learn things quickly. What else? I don't have magic powers really. I still get headaches and eat junk food.
- Aerbil313 4y ago
  Mine is 150-160 (varies by how much I’m sleep deprived during the IQ test) and I’m told that I’m exceptionally intelligent by teachers, friends, colleagues, most everyone I met since early childhood. I guess the more the difference to average, the more it stands out. From my experience, I believe higher IQ is nothing but better pattern recognition and being smart or genius means merely higher IQ + very good memory capability. I believe those two are interlinked [0]. By memory capability I mean not forgetting anything you’ve ever seen, not in the sense of being able to recall every minute of your entire life, but in the sense of reliably and always being able to recall all info regarding X if you’ve seen X only once in your life. Higher intelligence doesn’t mean you’re automatically better off than everyone also. It just means that you can be far ahead of everyone in any cognitive task with a far smaller amount of effort put in. Note that this doesn’t conflict with IQ being a reliable predictor of financial success, rather I believe this is the reason for it. [0]: https://saveall.ai/blog/learning-is-remembering https://saveall.ai/blog/learning-is-remembering
spaceman_2020 4y ago
If you ask any Fortune 500 CEO if he could magically take all the 135 IQ artists and academics and vagabonds, erase all their past traumas, put them through business or tech school, and put them to work in their company, they would all say 100% yes. An equivalent AI won't have any agency and will be happy doing the boring work other 135 IQ humans won't.

taylorius 4y ago

IQ isn't all that. Mine is 140+ and I'm just a somewhat well paid software engineer. It's TOO abstract a metric in my view - for sure it doesn't always translate into real world success.

roflyear 4y ago
Right were very much in the same boat. I'm good at pattern recognition I guess. I learn things quickly. What else? I don't have magic powers really. I still get headaches and eat junk food.
Aerbil313 4y ago
Mine is 150-160 (varies by how much I’m sleep deprived during the IQ test) and I’m told that I’m exceptionally intelligent by teachers, friends, colleagues, most everyone I met since early childhood. I guess the more the difference to average, the more it stands out. From my experience, I believe higher IQ is nothing but better pattern recognition and being smart or genius means merely higher IQ + very good memory capability. I believe those two are interlinked [0]. By memory capability I mean not forgetting anything you’ve ever seen, not in the sense of being able to recall every minute of your entire life, but in the sense of reliably and always being able to recall all info regarding X if you’ve seen X only once in your life. Higher intelligence doesn’t mean you’re automatically better off than everyone also. It just means that you can be far ahead of everyone in any cognitive task with a far smaller amount of effort put in. Note that this doesn’t conflict with IQ being a reliable predictor of financial success, rather I believe this is the reason for it. [0]: https://saveall.ai/blog/learning-is-remembering https://saveall.ai/blog/learning-is-remembering

spaceman_2020 4y ago

If you ask any Fortune 500 CEO if he could magically take all the 135 IQ artists and academics and vagabonds, erase all their past traumas, put them through business or tech school, and put them to work in their company, they would all say 100% yes. An equivalent AI won't have any agency and will be happy doing the boring work other 135 IQ humans won't.