The last time I was in a room full of engineers, respect was shown to everyone for their decades of professional service, and proven track record of delivering

The last time I was in a room full of engineers, respect was shown to everyone for their decades of professional service, and proven track record of delivering results to the industrial customers they supported. It was quiet and they were just going about their business. I wish I had the discipline back in the day to go into engineering, but the 4 years plus internship and state exam was a huge wall. Programming was a lot easier to get into.