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The only UX things they changed from Windows 10 to Windows 11 were downgrades, so far as I can tell - You can't move the taskbar to the sides of the screen any

The only UX things they changed from Windows 10 to Windows 11 were downgrades, so far as I can tell - You can't move the taskbar to the sides of the screen any more - The start menu is laggy now - There are more ads and forced tracking integrated into the OS I'm sure there's a lot of great stuff under the hood that got co-opted by whatever shortsighted idiot is in charge, but whatever it is, I'm not about to drop MacOS and linux to experience it

Red_Leaves_Flyy 3y ago
The windows ten start menu is also laggy. I’ve also disabled and uninstalled as much crap as possible.
skeaker 3y ago
Not to mention what is possibly the most asinine change I've ever seen in any UI revision of any software: Making the right click menu show you half the available options and requiring another click to view them all. Why?! It completely defeats the purpose of the right click menu as a convenient quick options menu. Nobody has ever said, "Man, right clicking is nice and all, but I wish I had to right click then left click on a More Options button then left click again." Just completely ridiculous.
- sho_hn 3y ago
  This is not the first time Microsoft has done it, either. In one of the MS Office generations, perhaps Office 2000, they introduced "Personalized Menus" as a major innovation in attempt to make the software less overwhelming. The idea was that the menubar menus would only show the most-used menu items by default, and hide the rest behind a "More items" at the bottom. It would then learn usage patterns and adjust the menu contents over time. The result: Menu options disappearing seemingly randomly. Stuff you used rarely but relied on sometimes would suddenly not be where you found it last time. The Ribbon later was kind of a "it's not working, back to the drawing board" reaction to that. It's an interesting lesson in how "pseudo-intelligent" software can come at the cost of predictability. I once had to design tab nickname completion in a chat app, and remembering the MS Office anecdote I made it so that prefix<tab> would complete to the most recently active user matching the prefix, but that subsequent <tab> presses would go through the rest alphabetically instead, which also made a lot more sense to the testers.
darknavi 3y ago
> - You can't move the taskbar to the sides of the screen any more Assuming this is what you meant, you can re-align the taskbar icons from center back to left in Settings. https://i.imgur.com/zmulgwG.png https://i.imgur.com/zmulgwG.png
- theodric 3y ago
  You used to be able to drag the taskbar to the sides (~like NeXTStep/BeOS) or the top (~like Mac OS). I assume GP means that functionality has departed to the great bit bucket in the sky now.
- wtallis 3y ago
  No, what they took away entirely is the ability to have the taskbar entirely on the side of the screen, with a vertical orientation. Now that they've settled on having just app icons in the taskbar rather than full window titles in wide buttons, a vertical taskbar at the side of the screen is a much better use of space on today's wide screens where vertical space is in short supply.

Red_Leaves_Flyy 3y ago

The windows ten start menu is also laggy. I’ve also disabled and uninstalled as much crap as possible.

skeaker 3y ago

Not to mention what is possibly the most asinine change I've ever seen in any UI revision of any software: Making the right click menu show you half the available options and requiring another click to view them all. Why?! It completely defeats the purpose of the right click menu as a convenient quick options menu. Nobody has ever said, "Man, right clicking is nice and all, but I wish I had to right click then left click on a More Options button then left click again." Just completely ridiculous.

sho_hn 3y ago
This is not the first time Microsoft has done it, either. In one of the MS Office generations, perhaps Office 2000, they introduced "Personalized Menus" as a major innovation in attempt to make the software less overwhelming. The idea was that the menubar menus would only show the most-used menu items by default, and hide the rest behind a "More items" at the bottom. It would then learn usage patterns and adjust the menu contents over time. The result: Menu options disappearing seemingly randomly. Stuff you used rarely but relied on sometimes would suddenly not be where you found it last time. The Ribbon later was kind of a "it's not working, back to the drawing board" reaction to that. It's an interesting lesson in how "pseudo-intelligent" software can come at the cost of predictability. I once had to design tab nickname completion in a chat app, and remembering the MS Office anecdote I made it so that prefix<tab> would complete to the most recently active user matching the prefix, but that subsequent <tab> presses would go through the rest alphabetically instead, which also made a lot more sense to the testers.

darknavi 3y ago

> - You can't move the taskbar to the sides of the screen any more Assuming this is what you meant, you can re-align the taskbar icons from center back to left in Settings. https://i.imgur.com/zmulgwG.png https://i.imgur.com/zmulgwG.png

theodric 3y ago
You used to be able to drag the taskbar to the sides (~like NeXTStep/BeOS) or the top (~like Mac OS). I assume GP means that functionality has departed to the great bit bucket in the sky now.
wtallis 3y ago
No, what they took away entirely is the ability to have the taskbar entirely on the side of the screen, with a vertical orientation. Now that they've settled on having just app icons in the taskbar rather than full window titles in wide buttons, a vertical taskbar at the side of the screen is a much better use of space on today's wide screens where vertical space is in short supply.