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My only caveat here is that I'm actually really curious to see a ruling about whether model weights can be copyrighted. I don't think the "Open Source" label p
by danShumway 4y ago
My only caveat here is that I'm actually really curious to see a ruling about whether model weights can be copyrighted.
I don't think the "Open Source" label people are using is accurate, and I heavily agree that a common thing that companies seem to be trying to do in this space is release what are essentially closed models while calling them open, and it's a really dangerous direction for AI to go. So nothing in your comment is wrong.
But it also feels a little bit like ceding ground to just assume that Llama can't be used commercially just because Facebook says it can't. I never signed a EULA with them, that claim depends entirely on whether or not model weights are under copyright (or under some similar form of IP protection, some people have brought up trade secrets).
And I don't have a super-strong opinion necessarily, but I'm not sure that's a safe assumption for people to make, and I kind of think it might be good to throw an asterisk next to "can't be used for commercial projects" whenever we talk about Llama's restrictions.
But again, I agree with you, it's not the same as saying Llama is Open Source. Even if it does get ruled as having weaker protections, I don't think the term would really apply.
- jupp0r 4y agoI haven't done so, but don't you sign an agreement when you ask Facebook for a link to download the weights for LLAMA which is currently the only officially supported way of getting those weights (https://github.com/facebookresearch/llama/tree/main#llama https://github.com/facebookresearch/llama/tree/main#llama) ?
- Ajedi32 4y agoWhy would you bother using an "officially supported" way of downloading the weights if they aren't copyrightable anyway?
- danShumway 4y agoI haven't used Llama for anything other than playing around to test its capabilities, so I feel fairly comfortable admitting publicly that when I did that testing, I did not download it from Facebook using an official portal, and I didn't sign any agreement about it. On that subject, to the best of my knowledge, I also haven't signed any kind of agreement with OpenAI. I've done all of my GPT testing through 3rd-party services or portals that don't require signing EULAs to use.
- nmfisher 4y agoI got the weights via BitTorrent, so no I didn't sign/agree to anything.