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>but having no tacky tracky shit shovelled throughout the OS Like ads for icloud services in settings? Apple TV and Music subscription promotions appearing abo

>but having no tacky tracky shit shovelled throughout the OS Like ads for icloud services in settings? Apple TV and Music subscription promotions appearing above all other the settings links? Personalized tracking being enabled by default?

Spivak 4y ago
The fact these are the complaints is the best possible endorsement for iOS. That's all?
- HeckFeck 4y ago
  That and the fact that it isn't being sold to other companies (from what I know of their privacy policy) and can be disabled if you wish. I don't blindly trust any company, but from what I can tell Apple makes their money from services and hardware. Someone else in this thread has indicated that advertisers are frustrated because they cannot access Apple user data. They recently implemented E2E for all iCloud data. It looks a better offering than trusting every aspect of my online life with a company who makes their $$$ from adverts and data mining. While I'd love to use a PinePhone running OpenBSD for my mobile needs, having the ability to message my friends is nice. As are online services that Just Work, and if they make their money from me paying and not from selling my data, then we can be content.
- paulddraper 4y ago
  :) what a hill to die on
sizzle 4y ago
Have you ever used a Samsung Galaxy device in comparison? I’m being upsold on their bloatware left and right and third party services. I hate Samsung and Android now with a passion because they don’t respect my settings and often install random system settings that contradict my choices. iOS is a breath of fresh air in comparison and does none of this. I say this as a diehard Android G1/Nexus fanboy from way back before it became obvious to me that Google apps are basically spyware for the surveillance capitalism machine.
- dexterdog 4y ago
  Get a pixel and put graphene on it.
  - nceqs3 4y ago
    lol
    - dexterdog 4y ago
      Explain
  - HeckFeck 4y ago
    Graphene is actually great, I'll admit that. Though it does come at the cost of avoiding any mainstream apps. I suppose that depends where you are in life and who your main contacts are.
    - dexterdog 4y ago
      The only app I can't use is wallet because there is no NFC for cards in graphene.
  - sizzle 4y ago
    I’ll look flashing it on an older device to test it out. Thanks for turn recommendation. Checking it out on xda.

Spivak 4y ago

The fact these are the complaints is the best possible endorsement for iOS. That's all?

HeckFeck 4y ago
That and the fact that it isn't being sold to other companies (from what I know of their privacy policy) and can be disabled if you wish. I don't blindly trust any company, but from what I can tell Apple makes their money from services and hardware. Someone else in this thread has indicated that advertisers are frustrated because they cannot access Apple user data. They recently implemented E2E for all iCloud data. It looks a better offering than trusting every aspect of my online life with a company who makes their $$$ from adverts and data mining. While I'd love to use a PinePhone running OpenBSD for my mobile needs, having the ability to message my friends is nice. As are online services that Just Work, and if they make their money from me paying and not from selling my data, then we can be content.
paulddraper 4y ago
:) what a hill to die on

sizzle 4y ago

Have you ever used a Samsung Galaxy device in comparison? I’m being upsold on their bloatware left and right and third party services. I hate Samsung and Android now with a passion because they don’t respect my settings and often install random system settings that contradict my choices. iOS is a breath of fresh air in comparison and does none of this. I say this as a diehard Android G1/Nexus fanboy from way back before it became obvious to me that Google apps are basically spyware for the surveillance capitalism machine.

dexterdog 4y ago
Get a pixel and put graphene on it.
- nceqs3 4y ago
  lol
  - dexterdog 4y ago
    Explain
- HeckFeck 4y ago
  Graphene is actually great, I'll admit that. Though it does come at the cost of avoiding any mainstream apps. I suppose that depends where you are in life and who your main contacts are.
  - dexterdog 4y ago
    The only app I can't use is wallet because there is no NFC for cards in graphene.
- sizzle 4y ago
  I’ll look flashing it on an older device to test it out. Thanks for turn recommendation. Checking it out on xda.