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I don't think there is a ready made alternative to Midjourney. Midjourney is way more versatile than SD. If you start getting some fine tuned models on civitai

I don't think there is a ready made alternative to Midjourney. Midjourney is way more versatile than SD. If you start getting some fine tuned models on civitai, trained to do well some specific tasks, you can get comparable quality but I haven't seen a single model which is able to replace Midjourney. Llama is no different, it has ok performance on generic queries but still far away from GPT3.5: if you start fine-tuning you can get good perf on specific tasks.

bugglebeetle 4y ago
SD with ControlNet and some other open source plugins is far more flexible than MidJourney. It just has all the typical hurdles of OSS vs. commercial offerings. Default image quality in Midjourney is better in terms of its pedestrian aesthetic biases, but it’s not very interesting as an actual artistic tool. And I say this as someone who doesn’t like either service and used to be a commercial illustrator before moving into Data Science.
asynchronous 4y ago
Midjourney also doesn’t have controlnet functionality like Stable Diffusion now does, which gives specific posing of a scene a huge edge on SD. They’re very similar offerings if you’re willing to put in the work on SD.
htaunay 4y ago
Midjourney to me feels like bowling with bumpers Sure, its very easy to get good results fast, but the tuning that avoids "uglier" images is the same that removes a lot of versatility compared to SD Also controlnet is a killer feature
- barking_biscuit 4y ago
  ControlNet 1.1 is pretty hectic.
famouswaffles 4y ago
You're 100 percent right. People will say control bla bla bla and that's certainly true. You can get a lot more control with Stable Diffusion but like 99% of digital comics created with ai art use midjourney. One of the most control and versatility inclined use cases of generated art and midjourney is still easily winning. There's a reason for that.
- dragonwriter 4y ago
  > and midjourney is still easily winning. There’s a reason for that. Sure, Midjourney is a centralized commercial service with a clear statement that you (as a paid user) own the images you create. While that doesn’t resolve all potential copyright issues (as there are still at least theoretical issues with the underlying dataset), if you doing something commercial with it like, say, a webcomic from which you derive income, its a lot simpler than dealing with the SD ecosystem where the plethora of models also have different stated usage restrictions, different suppliers (many of which are hobbyists) to keep track of, and more potential avenues of indirect copyright risk, as well. For some webcomics, even the base CreativeML Open RAIL-M license itself might be problematic. This isn’t a technical or quality advantage, but its definitely an advantage that would very often tip the balance between two tools if both are minimally adequate to your task.

bugglebeetle 4y ago

SD with ControlNet and some other open source plugins is far more flexible than MidJourney. It just has all the typical hurdles of OSS vs. commercial offerings. Default image quality in Midjourney is better in terms of its pedestrian aesthetic biases, but it’s not very interesting as an actual artistic tool. And I say this as someone who doesn’t like either service and used to be a commercial illustrator before moving into Data Science.

asynchronous 4y ago

Midjourney also doesn’t have controlnet functionality like Stable Diffusion now does, which gives specific posing of a scene a huge edge on SD. They’re very similar offerings if you’re willing to put in the work on SD.

htaunay 4y ago

Midjourney to me feels like bowling with bumpers Sure, its very easy to get good results fast, but the tuning that avoids "uglier" images is the same that removes a lot of versatility compared to SD Also controlnet is a killer feature

barking_biscuit 4y ago
ControlNet 1.1 is pretty hectic.

famouswaffles 4y ago

You're 100 percent right. People will say control bla bla bla and that's certainly true. You can get a lot more control with Stable Diffusion but like 99% of digital comics created with ai art use midjourney. One of the most control and versatility inclined use cases of generated art and midjourney is still easily winning. There's a reason for that.

dragonwriter 4y ago
> and midjourney is still easily winning. There’s a reason for that. Sure, Midjourney is a centralized commercial service with a clear statement that you (as a paid user) own the images you create. While that doesn’t resolve all potential copyright issues (as there are still at least theoretical issues with the underlying dataset), if you doing something commercial with it like, say, a webcomic from which you derive income, its a lot simpler than dealing with the SD ecosystem where the plethora of models also have different stated usage restrictions, different suppliers (many of which are hobbyists) to keep track of, and more potential avenues of indirect copyright risk, as well. For some webcomics, even the base CreativeML Open RAIL-M license itself might be problematic. This isn’t a technical or quality advantage, but its definitely an advantage that would very often tip the balance between two tools if both are minimally adequate to your task.