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> nightmare PR It changes nothing. It’s not a nightmare. It’s not even problematic for them.

jchw 3y ago
A PR nightmare != a financial problem. Indeed, if your company exists in a vacuum, PR is no issue for you! However, I worked at Google, and I'm telling you right now that negative reception and bad press takes a toll on employee morale, among other things. That's because companies, of course, don't exist in a vacuum where there's never any consequences. Of course, nobody is suggesting that Nintendo is going to go bankrupt because they were mean to some YouTubers who ostensibly didn't do anything wrong, but just because there's no easy way to quantify the impact does not mean it will never matter. It does matter. I promise you, they are not sitting there thinking "Alright yeah! A bunch of people are really pissed off at us! High fives all around, this is exactly what we aim to do here at Nintendo!"
- lcnPylGDnU4H9OF 3y ago
  > I promise you, they are not sitting there thinking "Alright yeah! A bunch of people are really pissed off at us! High fives all around, this is exactly what we aim to do here at Nintendo!" Despite that, there could be a handful of people with influential roles in the company who consider this to be a part of doing business. To your point, those same people would likely still know about this situation (rather, the general situation around copyright / marketing) and understand why they make the decisions they make while still being genuinely concerned with the trade-offs. To your parent commenter's point, that doesn't mean this is any sort of crisis (or "nightmare") to the most influential decision-makers at Nintendo; it's just part of their job.
  - jchw 3y ago
    I think maybe the phrasing "PR nightmare" is doing too much work here. All I meant to imply is that this is bad PR for Nintendo, not that it is causing them to go to the war room. Maybe PR nightmare is simply too strong of a term. I disagree that it is a complete non-issue, though.
    - lcnPylGDnU4H9OF 3y ago
      I didn't mean to paint it as a non-issue (I guess OP may have), just not a "crisis" issue. I agree that "PR nightmare" is a term which removes much nuance; it's neither a non-issue nor a "war room"-necessary issue.
- fauxpause_ 3y ago
  I didn’t claim it was a financial problem, an existential risk, or something they’re joyous about? It just doesn’t matter. Google’s reputation does matter. Because you’re giving them data and relying on their services. If they cancel that service or do something bad with your data you are gonna have a bad time. If Nintendo shuts down a streamer… whatever. Doesn’t affect 99.99999% of customers. Or employees.

jchw 3y ago

A PR nightmare != a financial problem. Indeed, if your company exists in a vacuum, PR is no issue for you! However, I worked at Google, and I'm telling you right now that negative reception and bad press takes a toll on employee morale, among other things. That's because companies, of course, don't exist in a vacuum where there's never any consequences. Of course, nobody is suggesting that Nintendo is going to go bankrupt because they were mean to some YouTubers who ostensibly didn't do anything wrong, but just because there's no easy way to quantify the impact does not mean it will never matter. It does matter. I promise you, they are not sitting there thinking "Alright yeah! A bunch of people are really pissed off at us! High fives all around, this is exactly what we aim to do here at Nintendo!"

lcnPylGDnU4H9OF 3y ago
> I promise you, they are not sitting there thinking "Alright yeah! A bunch of people are really pissed off at us! High fives all around, this is exactly what we aim to do here at Nintendo!" Despite that, there could be a handful of people with influential roles in the company who consider this to be a part of doing business. To your point, those same people would likely still know about this situation (rather, the general situation around copyright / marketing) and understand why they make the decisions they make while still being genuinely concerned with the trade-offs. To your parent commenter's point, that doesn't mean this is any sort of crisis (or "nightmare") to the most influential decision-makers at Nintendo; it's just part of their job.
- jchw 3y ago
  I think maybe the phrasing "PR nightmare" is doing too much work here. All I meant to imply is that this is bad PR for Nintendo, not that it is causing them to go to the war room. Maybe PR nightmare is simply too strong of a term. I disagree that it is a complete non-issue, though.
  - lcnPylGDnU4H9OF 3y ago
    I didn't mean to paint it as a non-issue (I guess OP may have), just not a "crisis" issue. I agree that "PR nightmare" is a term which removes much nuance; it's neither a non-issue nor a "war room"-necessary issue.
fauxpause_ 3y ago
I didn’t claim it was a financial problem, an existential risk, or something they’re joyous about? It just doesn’t matter. Google’s reputation does matter. Because you’re giving them data and relying on their services. If they cancel that service or do something bad with your data you are gonna have a bad time. If Nintendo shuts down a streamer… whatever. Doesn’t affect 99.99999% of customers. Or employees.