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Are you implying that allowing companies the choice to go sideload-only is a bad thing?

kube-system 3y ago
It is a good thing that mainstream users get their apps from somewhere that they've been reviewed by a third party. A world where sideloading from anywhere becomes a normal thing for mainstream users to do, is bad for privacy and security. eg.: https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2040/1924189728_668c4bc4e2.jpg https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2040/1924189728_668c4bc4e2.jpg
- vorpalhex 3y ago
  Users deserve freedom with their devices regardless whether you think they should have it. The internet is valuable because it is open and free. Meanwhile the appstore complies with authoritarian regimes.
  - kube-system 3y ago
    I disagree with the idea that an open internet somehow means that proprietary devices shouldn't be permitted to connect to it.
tsbinz 3y ago
If the company is big enough (e.g. not using whatsapp is not an option for a lot of people), or if the app comes from a state that can force you to install it by law, yes it can be.
- 015a 3y ago
  As opposed to Apple being big enough that they can bully developers into both building for their platform and distributing through the channels they christen?
  - jutrewag 3y ago
    Yes. All hail the walled garden, didn’t know it’s what I wanted but it is. The PC is my playground, I want my phone to be rock solid and someone else to do the weeding there.
    - zarzavat 3y ago
      Don’t worry, you can bet Apple is going to make sideloading as awkward as possible within the bounds of the law. It’s not like Apple woke up one day and decided they don’t like money. It will only be useful for hobbyists.
mort96 3y ago
I'm saying that "[you can] simply just get apps from the official store" is not necessarily correct. I'm not making a value judgement about whether that's a good or a bad thing.
jutrewag 3y ago
Yes, I’ve come to trust apple and they protect their consumers privacy. I don’t have the same level of trust in other companies.

It is a good thing that mainstream users get their apps from somewhere that they've been reviewed by a third party. A world where sideloading from anywhere becomes a normal thing for mainstream users to do, is bad for privacy and security. eg.: https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2040/1924189728_668c4bc4e2.jpg https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2040/1924189728_668c4bc4e2.jpg

vorpalhex 3y ago
Users deserve freedom with their devices regardless whether you think they should have it. The internet is valuable because it is open and free. Meanwhile the appstore complies with authoritarian regimes.
- kube-system 3y ago
  I disagree with the idea that an open internet somehow means that proprietary devices shouldn't be permitted to connect to it.

tsbinz 3y ago

If the company is big enough (e.g. not using whatsapp is not an option for a lot of people), or if the app comes from a state that can force you to install it by law, yes it can be.

015a 3y ago
As opposed to Apple being big enough that they can bully developers into both building for their platform and distributing through the channels they christen?
- jutrewag 3y ago
  Yes. All hail the walled garden, didn’t know it’s what I wanted but it is. The PC is my playground, I want my phone to be rock solid and someone else to do the weeding there.
  - zarzavat 3y ago
    Don’t worry, you can bet Apple is going to make sideloading as awkward as possible within the bounds of the law. It’s not like Apple woke up one day and decided they don’t like money. It will only be useful for hobbyists.

mort96 3y ago

I'm saying that "[you can] simply just get apps from the official store" is not necessarily correct. I'm not making a value judgement about whether that's a good or a bad thing.

jutrewag 3y ago

Yes, I’ve come to trust apple and they protect their consumers privacy. I don’t have the same level of trust in other companies.