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Philosophically: The more impact you have on society, the less privacy you deserve. You're free to disagree with this, but not to claim it's an invalid view sim

Philosophically: The more impact you have on society, the less privacy you deserve. You're free to disagree with this, but not to claim it's an invalid view simply because it does not align with current law.

golergka 4y ago
Impact they have on society is based on completely voluntary interactions by millions of users. Some choose to upload videos, some choose to watch them, and all of them are completely okay with Pornhub being private. You suggest that an unrelated third party (government) comes into these interactions, invents a "society", which isn't really a subject but an abstract category, insists that it acts on behalf of it, and unlike all previous actors, wants to force submission not with voluntary transactions, but with the use of force. I can't see how a reasonable human being would possibly advocate for something so amoral.
- AlecSchueler 4y ago
  > Impact they have on society is based on completely voluntary interactions by millions of users. S So what does that change? They either have big impact or they don't. > I can't see how a reasonable human being would possibly advocate for something so amoral. Maybe you should look at some parliamentary discussions from the countries that already legislate for business transparency in these cases and see why they came to the positions they came to?
  - golergka 4y ago
    > So what does that change? They either have big impact or they don't. Society isn't a subject. It shouldn't be treated like such, and no arbitrary organisation should assume the role of it's representative.
    - AlecSchueler 4y ago
      Where did the role of representative come into it? It's more a question of them being accountable for their responsibility, even if (especially if?) that responsibility is bestowed unto them by the public/the market.
      - golergka 4y ago
        You don't become responsible for something just because you have influence for it. You can only assume responsibility voluntarily by entering a relationship with somebody, a concrete subject, which society isn't.
        AlecSchueler 4y ago
        I disagree completely but I can understand there are cultural differences place to place in terms of individual responsibility within the collective.
        golergka 4y ago
        There is no collective until a person chooses to become a part of one.

golergka 4y ago

Impact they have on society is based on completely voluntary interactions by millions of users. Some choose to upload videos, some choose to watch them, and all of them are completely okay with Pornhub being private. You suggest that an unrelated third party (government) comes into these interactions, invents a "society", which isn't really a subject but an abstract category, insists that it acts on behalf of it, and unlike all previous actors, wants to force submission not with voluntary transactions, but with the use of force. I can't see how a reasonable human being would possibly advocate for something so amoral.

AlecSchueler 4y ago
> Impact they have on society is based on completely voluntary interactions by millions of users. S So what does that change? They either have big impact or they don't. > I can't see how a reasonable human being would possibly advocate for something so amoral. Maybe you should look at some parliamentary discussions from the countries that already legislate for business transparency in these cases and see why they came to the positions they came to?
- golergka 4y ago
  > So what does that change? They either have big impact or they don't. Society isn't a subject. It shouldn't be treated like such, and no arbitrary organisation should assume the role of it's representative.
  - AlecSchueler 4y ago
    Where did the role of representative come into it? It's more a question of them being accountable for their responsibility, even if (especially if?) that responsibility is bestowed unto them by the public/the market.
    - golergka 4y ago
      You don't become responsible for something just because you have influence for it. You can only assume responsibility voluntarily by entering a relationship with somebody, a concrete subject, which society isn't.
      - AlecSchueler 4y ago
        I disagree completely but I can understand there are cultural differences place to place in terms of individual responsibility within the collective.
        golergka 4y ago
        There is no collective until a person chooses to become a part of one.