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I spoke to my 16 year old about this the other day. He's pretty laid back, and in a fairly responsible friend group. They all hate Nintendo. Love their products

I spoke to my 16 year old about this the other day. He's pretty laid back, and in a fairly responsible friend group. They all hate Nintendo. Love their products, but hate the company, precisely because of this sort of thing. A lot of this gains them nothing other than resentment.

dfxm12 4y ago
If they all end up getting new games like Tears of the Kingdom, then I'm not quite sure why Nintendo would change course.
- jchw 4y ago
  I think that's why this sucks, though. I think that people actually do appreciate the products that Nintendo make; they clearly employ and work with some of the best talent in the game dev industry, which is not surprising given their history. In general, this idea of "voting with one's wallet" is romantically appealing, but in practice asking people to make purchasing decisions for things like entertainment media based on things like this doesn't seem to work. And I think it's more complicated than JUST mindshare: I think even people who want to boycott things wind up buying them anyways a lot of the time. I think it's not apparent that Nintendo actually has to behave this way. There is a general notion that other game developers fall elsewhere on the spectrum, with SEGA falling on the more permissive end (though notably, they are not free of drama from DMCA takedowns, but they have a much better reputation of being lax, working with fans, and generally just having better PR overall. I did receive a DMCA takedown request from SEGA once, and yet I can attest to this all still.)
- kodt 4y ago
  Yeah, it reminds me of this image: https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--W8ZYHe9O--/c_scale,f_auto,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800/18j48weujcgewjpg.jpg https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--W8ZYHe9...
x-complexity 4y ago
> I spoke to my 16 year old about this the other day. He's pretty laid back, and in a fairly responsible friend group. They all hate Nintendo. Love their products, but hate the company, precisely because of this sort of thing. A lot of this gains them nothing other than resentment. The hate is worthless in Nintendo's eyes: All that matters is whether or not they'll keep buying <Insert Nintendo product here>. And for most people, they'll continue to buy 'em. Unless their revenue significantly suffers, it will be business as usual.

dfxm12 4y ago

If they all end up getting new games like Tears of the Kingdom, then I'm not quite sure why Nintendo would change course.

jchw 4y ago
I think that's why this sucks, though. I think that people actually do appreciate the products that Nintendo make; they clearly employ and work with some of the best talent in the game dev industry, which is not surprising given their history. In general, this idea of "voting with one's wallet" is romantically appealing, but in practice asking people to make purchasing decisions for things like entertainment media based on things like this doesn't seem to work. And I think it's more complicated than JUST mindshare: I think even people who want to boycott things wind up buying them anyways a lot of the time. I think it's not apparent that Nintendo actually has to behave this way. There is a general notion that other game developers fall elsewhere on the spectrum, with SEGA falling on the more permissive end (though notably, they are not free of drama from DMCA takedowns, but they have a much better reputation of being lax, working with fans, and generally just having better PR overall. I did receive a DMCA takedown request from SEGA once, and yet I can attest to this all still.)
kodt 4y ago
Yeah, it reminds me of this image: https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--W8ZYHe9O--/c_scale,f_auto,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800/18j48weujcgewjpg.jpg https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--W8ZYHe9...

x-complexity 4y ago

> I spoke to my 16 year old about this the other day. He's pretty laid back, and in a fairly responsible friend group. They all hate Nintendo. Love their products, but hate the company, precisely because of this sort of thing. A lot of this gains them nothing other than resentment. The hate is worthless in Nintendo's eyes: All that matters is whether or not they'll keep buying <Insert Nintendo product here>. And for most people, they'll continue to buy 'em. Unless their revenue significantly suffers, it will be business as usual.