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> I'm not a right wing American. I'm a European who... Did Twitter even care about your local politics before Musk? They banned Trump, while the ayatollah, CCP

by avar 4y ago

> I'm not a right wing American. I'm a European who... Did Twitter even care about your local politics before Musk? They banned Trump, while the ayatollah, CCP etc. retrained their accounts. Facebook was also actively censoring discussion related to American politics, while hardly noticing that a literal genocide was being coordinated on their platform in southeast Asia.

themitigating 4y ago
"while hardly noticing that a literal genocide was being coordinated on their platform in southeast Asia." Was this a decision or simply a lack of resources for that area.
- wasmitnetzen 4y ago
  Is there a meaningful difference? Having a lack of resources is a decision.
  - brookst 4y ago
    It's a huge difference. It's the difference between negligent homicide and murder. Both legal and moral thinking distinguishes between these two concepts. It's fine to note that they are both bad and both mean culpability and liability, but pretending they are literally the same thing is the worst kind of rhetorical device.
    - Frondo 4y ago
      They had been warned by locals in both Burma and Sri Lanka for many months that violent rhetoric was spreading like wildfire through users in those countries, and did nothing about it -- seldom even responding to the people pleading for them to do something. When Sri Lanka pulled the plug on Facebook as violence was starting to erupt, Facebook did then reach out...to ask why their Sri Lankan traffic had dropped off. This is documented in a variety of places, but for an excellent write-up of these tragedies I'd recommend The Chaos Machine by Max Fisher.
      - themitigating 4y ago
        Well here's a easier way to think about it. Lacking additional evidence of their decision making process either: 1. Facebook wanted or didn't care at all that a genocide was going to happen and happened 2. Facebook cared to a reasonable extent but due to an american centric setup isn't prepared to censor posts in certain areas of the world Bad? Yes, evil? No big difference

by avar 4y ago

themitigating 4y ago

"while hardly noticing that a literal genocide was being coordinated on their platform in southeast Asia." Was this a decision or simply a lack of resources for that area.

wasmitnetzen 4y ago
Is there a meaningful difference? Having a lack of resources is a decision.
- brookst 4y ago
  It's a huge difference. It's the difference between negligent homicide and murder. Both legal and moral thinking distinguishes between these two concepts. It's fine to note that they are both bad and both mean culpability and liability, but pretending they are literally the same thing is the worst kind of rhetorical device.
  - Frondo 4y ago
    They had been warned by locals in both Burma and Sri Lanka for many months that violent rhetoric was spreading like wildfire through users in those countries, and did nothing about it -- seldom even responding to the people pleading for them to do something. When Sri Lanka pulled the plug on Facebook as violence was starting to erupt, Facebook did then reach out...to ask why their Sri Lankan traffic had dropped off. This is documented in a variety of places, but for an excellent write-up of these tragedies I'd recommend The Chaos Machine by Max Fisher.
    - themitigating 4y ago
      Well here's a easier way to think about it. Lacking additional evidence of their decision making process either: 1. Facebook wanted or didn't care at all that a genocide was going to happen and happened 2. Facebook cared to a reasonable extent but due to an american centric setup isn't prepared to censor posts in certain areas of the world Bad? Yes, evil? No big difference